linux-kernel - Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3

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Message-ID: <487153B3.80002@garzik.org>
Date:	Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:22:27 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
CC:	david@...g.hm, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, andi@...stfloor.org,
	tytso@....edu, hugh@...itas.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com, mchan@...adcom.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"

David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 17:38 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> David Woodhouse wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 13:52 -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, David Woodhouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 2008-07-06 at 13:17 -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
>>>>>> if David W were to make it possible to not use the load_firmware() call to
>>>>>> userspace and build the firmware into the driver (be it in a monolithic
>>>>>> kernel or the module that contains the driver)
>>>>> You _can_ build the firmware into the kernel.
>>>> right, but not into a module. you have half of the answer in place, but 
>>>> not all of it.
>>> The useful half. If you have userspace to load modules, you have
>>> userspace to load firmware too.
>> Existing examples have already been provided where this logic fails.
> 
> I even provided such an example, where your script greps the module for
> 'request_firmware' and fails if there's a match. I don't think any of
> the other provided examples were _much_ more sensible than that...

That makes the false presumption that scripts have been updated to avoid 
the obvious case -- non-working drivers.

Why is it so difficult to follow a simple principle:

	Keep things working tomorrow, that work today.

hmmm?

That's how kernel module support was integrated, so many years ago.

	Jeff



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