linux-kernel - Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel, use it in more drivers.

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807150936070.3017@woody.linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	david@...g.hm
cc:	Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>, jeff@...zik.org,
	arjan@...radead.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	dwmw2@...radead.org, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT *] Allow request_firmware() to be satisfied from in-kernel,
 use it in more drivers.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, david@...g.hm wrote:
>
> David W has made it very clear that the eventual intent of this patch series
> is to remove all firmware from the kernel tree and have it shipped as a
> seperate package.

I don't think that kind of black-and-white model is necessarily 
attainable. Nor do I think it's even _good_.

It's probably the right thign for _some_ firmware, assuming we have models 
that just make it easy enough - for drivers where it's generally better 
for distros to get the firmware from vendors rather than the kernel.

But there is certainly nothing inherently good in forcing a split.

I think both sides here need to calm down and stop being so extreme.

I do want request_firmware() to be the way to load firmware (and possibly 
other configuration data too, for that matter - I don't think it's 
necessarily wrong for people to "misuse" it for other long-term data 
despite the name), and I do want people to be able to update firmware 
easily without having to force a kernel bump, but I also don't think it 
means that firmware has to go away from the kernel sources.

So I think the _infrastructure_ is important. But the extreme "you have to 
split it off entirely" mindset is equally as stupid as the "you must 
compile it into the module" mindset.

			Linus
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