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Message-ID: <5a4c581d0807241437o19b2ad8fha715f7dda5e61119@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:37:57 +0200
From:	"Alessandro Suardi" <alessandro.suardi@...il.com>
To:	"Robert Hancock" <hancockr@...w.ca>
Cc:	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"Johannes Berg" <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	"Pierre Ossman" <drzeus-list@...eus.cx>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	"Jean Tourrilhes" <jt@....hp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 22bb1be4d27... breaks hal (and NM)

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:13 PM, Robert Hancock <hancockr@...w.ca> wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>> : +config WIRELESS_EXT_SYSFS
>> : +     bool "Wireless extensions sysfs files"
>> : +     default y
>> : +     depends on WIRELESS_EXT && SYSFS
>> : +     help
>> : +       This option enables the deprecated wireless statistics
>> : +       files in /sys/class/net/*/wireless/. The same information
>> : +       is available via the ioctls as well.
>> : +
>> : +       Say Y if you have programs using it (we don't know of any).
>> :
>> So if you've enabled CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT_SYSFS (and it correctly has
>> default y) then things should continue to work OK.  And the deprecation
>> date of 2010 sounds reasonable.  In fact generous, for us...
>>
>> So where's the problem?
>
> The Kconfig message implies that nobody uses the files. It needs to be
> updated to state that older versions of HAL do use them (and ideally what
> version this was changed).

I was also lured by the Kconfig text, so I changed the default, but
 have noticed no breakage so far.

[asuardi@...dman linux-2.6.26-git11]$ grep WIRELESS_EXT .config
CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y
# CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT_SYSFS is not set
[asuardi@...dman linux-2.6.26-git11]$ rpm -q hal
hal-0.5.11-2.fc9.i386

Is it because Fedora 9 hal is new enough or because I didn't do anything
 to trigger the breakage ? Just curious.

--alessandro

 "Give me love / Or give me hate
 Give me anything that's not just ok"

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