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Message-Id: <200808031833.32048.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:33:30 +1000
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
"Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce down_try() so we can move away from down_trylock()
On Saturday 02 August 2008 03:26:33 Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Rusty Russell wrote:
> > Introduce down_try()
>
> I hate that name. Everybody else uses "xxx_trylock()", now you introduce a
> short version of that that just has the same return value as everybody
> else except for semaphores that admittedly were odd.
spin_lock => spin_trylock, so down => trydown. But everyone hated that, too.
I love your suggestion tho. Oh wait, you didn't make one...
> Also, all actual _users_ of down_trylock() seem to be prime candidates for
> turning into mutexes anyway - with the _possible_ exception of the console
> semaphore which has problems with the mutex debugging code.
And Willy is working on that. Still. Frankly, I gave up waiting.
> > Andrew suggested introducing "down_try" as a wrapper now, to make
> > the transition easier.
>
> The transition to WHAT? To crap?
>
> There is no need to introduce yet another temporary thing just to make
> things even _more_ confusing.
And so my patch series replaces all 21 of them. It's a trivial replace,
unlike sem -> mutex.
> Guys, some quality control and critical thinking, please.
Good idea. If we'd done that we wouldn't have the down_trylock() brain
damage.
Rusty.
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