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Message-Id: <1217980132.27684.203.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:48:52 -0400
From:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
To:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	"Press, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Press@...com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, malware-list@...ts.printk.net,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro
	toalinuxinterfaceforonaccess scanning

On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 00:37 +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 03:26:38PM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:12:34PM -0400, Press, Jonathan wrote:
> > > Sorry for the top-post... but I give up.
> > >  
> > > I don't think I'm stupid, but frankly I don't understand the point of
> > > the questions being asked in the last three responses to my statement.
> > > I don't know why they are relevant, and I don't know how to answer
> > > them in a framework that we can all understand at the same time.
> 
> Excuse me?  One of those questions had been a very specific yes-or-no one
> and I certainly hope that we all can understand either answer to such...
> 
> For the record, the question is
> 
> "Do you or do you not expect the malware to be active on scanning host?"

I do believe for a number of AV vendors the answer is yes.  I will try
to have some offline conversations with the right people at a number of
vendors and work to better define the threats that they wish to or
believe they are able to help mitigate.

-Eric

> I hope that relevance of that to the analysis of software involved in
> scanning should be obvious.

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