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Message-ID: <20080806125612.6bf9eb40@infradead.org>
Date:	Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:56:12 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:	Simon Arlott <simon@...e.lp0.eu>,
	Rene Herman <rene.herman@...access.nl>,
	<linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@...sta.com>,
	USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] USB: Add HCD fastboot

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:49:27 -0400 (EDT)
Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008, Simon Arlott wrote:
> 
> > > Wouldn't it be much simpler, and less objectionable, to do what I
> > > suggested earlier?  That is, add a 5-second delay at the start of
> > > hub_thread() in drivers/usb/core/hub.c.  No messing with
> > > Makefiles, no changes to the initcall scheduling.
> > 
> > Aside from 5 seconds being too long, and anything less being a race
> > between hub_thread() and driver initcalls, it doesn't improve
> > anything because it'll still have to wait for the devices to finish
> > initialising in userspace instead.
> 
> Why is 5 seconds too long?  Too long for what?

because I'm done booting to full UI in that time.

it's forever.

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