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Message-ID: <20080806035255.GC24801@one.firstfloor.org>
Date:	Wed, 6 Aug 2008 05:52:55 +0200
From:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
To:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
Cc:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, malware-list@...ts.printk.net,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux interface for on access scanning

> I didn't consider it.  Most likely at the end of the day the finding
> will be, "if you can write directly to the block device you already won
> since there as so many other things you can do to subvert the system."

This means your scheme is not generally supposed to protect against root? 

I assume yes (since I can think of lots of other holes for 
root), but you should state that explicitely in the spec since it
is a major limitation.

On the other hand it will also allow you to optimize significantly:

In particularly it also means that you can trust the permissions
and don't need to check any files which cannot be written by users 
you don't control.

-Andi

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