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Message-ID: <20080805203052.3de22dd2@bree.surriel.com>
Date:	Tue, 5 Aug 2008 20:30:52 -0400
From:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
To:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
Cc:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	"Press, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Press@...com>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	malware-list@...ts.printk.net,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linux
 interfaceforon access scanning

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:39:34 -0400
Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 11:27 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:

> > but close is... very limited in value. Open is a discrete event
> > traditionally associated withh permission checks.
> > Close... not so.  (And if you mmap memory, you can then close the file
> > and still write to it via the mmap)
> 
> Thankfully my implementation will invalidate that close time check and
> caching result.  It does the invalidating the same place we update mtime
> and my understanding is that mmap has been updating mtime for quite a
> while now. 

Then isn't the close time check superfluous, since you do the
checks at change time already?

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