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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:31:26 -0400
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@...g.org>,
Clark Williams <williams@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] ftrace: to kill a daemon
* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@...dmis.org) wrote:
>
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> > >
> > > Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > > I wish we had a true 5 byte nop.
> > >
> > > 0x66 0x66 0x66 0x66 0x90
> >
> > I don't think so. Multiple redundant prefixes can be really expensive on
> > some uarchs.
> >
> > A no-op that isn't cheap isn't a no-op at all, it's a slow-op.
>
>
> A quick meaningless benchmark showed a slight perfomance hit.
>
Hi Steven,
I tried to run my own tests to see if I could get to know if these
numbers are actually meaningful at all. My results seems to show that
there is not any significant difference between the various
configurations, and actually that the only one tendency I see is that
the 2-bytes jump offset 0x03 would be slightly faster than the 3/2 nop
on Intel Xeon. But we would have to run these a bit more often to
confirm that I guess.
I am just trying to get a sense of whether we are really trying hard to
optimize something worthless in practice, and to me it looks like it.
But it could be the architecture I am using that brings these results.
Mathieu
Intel Xeon dual quad-core
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz
3/2 nop used :
K8_NOP3 K8_NOP2
#define K8_NOP2 ".byte 0x66,0x90\n"
#define K8_NOP3 ".byte 0x66,0x66,0x90\n"
** Summary **
Test A : make -j20 2.6.27-rc2 kernel (real time)
Avg. std.dev
Case 1 : ftrace not compiled-in. 1m9.76s 0.41s
Case 2 : 3/2 nops 1m9.95s 0.36s
Case 3 : 2-bytes jump, offset 0x03 1m9.10s 0.40s
Case 4 : 5-bytes jump, offset 0x00 1m9.25s 0.34s
Test B : hackbench 15
Case 1 : ftrace not compiled-in. 0.349s 0.007s
Case 2 : 3/2 nops 0.351s 0.014s
Case 3 : 2-bytes jump, offset 0x03 0.350s 0.007s
Case 4 : 5-bytes jump, offset 0x00 0.351s 0.010s
** Detail **
* Test A
benchmark : make -j20 2.6.27-rc2 kernel
make clean; make -j20; make clean done before the tests to prime caches.
Same .config used.
Case 1 : ftrace not compiled-in.
real 1m9.980s
user 7m27.664s
sys 0m48.771s
real 1m9.330s
user 7m27.244s
sys 0m50.567s
real 1m9.393s
user 7m27.408s
sys 0m50.511s
real 1m9.674s
user 7m28.088s
sys 0m50.327s
real 1m10.441s
user 7m27.736s
sys 0m49.687s
real time
average : 1m9.76s
std. dev. : 0.41s
after a reboot with the same kernel :
real 1m8.758s
user 7m26.012s
sys 0m48.835s
real 1m11.035s
user 7m26.432s
sys 0m49.171s
real 1m9.834s
user 7m25.768s
sys 0m49.167s
Case 2 : 3/2 nops
real 1m9.713s
user 7m27.524s
sys 0m48.315s
real 1m9.481s
user 7m27.144s
sys 0m48.587s
real 1m10.565s
user 7m27.048s
sys 0m48.715s
real 1m10.008s
user 7m26.436s
sys 0m49.295s
real 1m9.982s
user 7m27.160s
sys 0m48.667s
real time
avg : 1m9.95s
std. dev. : 0.36s
Case 3 : 2-bytes jump, offset 0x03
real 1m9.158s
user 7m27.108s
sys 0m48.775s
real 1m9.159s
user 7m27.320s
sys 0m48.659s
real 1m8.390s
user 7m27.976s
sys 0m48.359s
real 1m9.143s
user 7m26.624s
sys 0m48.719s
real 1m9.642s
user 7m26.228s
sys 0m49.483s
real time
avg : 1m9.10s
std. dev. : 0.40s
one extra after reboot with same kernel :
real 1m8.855s
user 7m27.372s
sys 0m48.543s
Case 4 : 5-bytes jump, offset 0x00
real 1m9.173s
user 7m27.228s
sys 0m48.151s
real 1m9.735s
user 7m26.852s
sys 0m48.499s
real 1m9.502s
user 7m27.148s
sys 0m48.107s
real 1m8.727s
user 7m27.416s
sys 0m48.071s
real 1m9.115s
user 7m26.932s
sys 0m48.727s
real time
avg : 1m9.25s
std. dev. : 0.34s
* Test B
Hackbench
Case 1 : ftrace not compiled-in.
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.358
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.342
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.354
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.338
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.347
Average : 0.349
std. dev. : 0.007
Case 2 : 3/2 nops
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.328
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.368
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.351
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.343
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.366
Average : 0.351
std. dev. : 0.014
Case 3 : jmp 2 bytes
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.346
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.359
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.356
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.350
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.340
Average : 0.350
std. dev. : 0.007
Case 3 : jmp 5 bytes
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.346
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.346
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.364
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.362
./hackbench 15
Time: 0.338
Average : 0.351
std. dev. : 0.010
Hardware used :
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5405 @ 2.00GHz
stepping : 6
cpu MHz : 2000.114
cache size : 6144 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 4
core id : 0
cpu cores : 4
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm
constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni monitor ds_cpl vmx tm2 ssse3
cx16 xtpr dca sse4_1 lahf_lm
bogomips : 4000.22
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 38 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
(7 other similar cpus)
> Here's 10 runs of "hackbench 50" using the two part 5 byte nop:
>
> run 1
> Time: 4.501
> run 2
> Time: 4.855
> run 3
> Time: 4.198
> run 4
> Time: 4.587
> run 5
> Time: 5.016
> run 6
> Time: 4.757
> run 7
> Time: 4.477
> run 8
> Time: 4.693
> run 9
> Time: 4.710
> run 10
> Time: 4.715
> avg = 4.6509
>
>
> And 10 runs using the above 5 byte nop:
>
> run 1
> Time: 4.832
> run 2
> Time: 5.319
> run 3
> Time: 5.213
> run 4
> Time: 4.830
> run 5
> Time: 4.363
> run 6
> Time: 4.391
> run 7
> Time: 4.772
> run 8
> Time: 4.992
> run 9
> Time: 4.727
> run 10
> Time: 4.825
> avg = 4.8264
>
> # cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family : 15
> model : 65
> model name : Dual-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2220
> stepping : 3
> cpu MHz : 2799.992
> cache size : 1024 KB
> physical id : 0
> siblings : 2
> core id : 0
> cpu cores : 2
> apicid : 0
> initial apicid : 0
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
> cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt
> rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic
> cr8_legacy
> bogomips : 5599.98
> clflush size : 64
> power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc
>
> There's 4 of these.
>
> Just to make sure, I ran the above nop test again:
>
> [ this is reverse from the above runs ]
>
> run 1
> Time: 4.723
> run 2
> Time: 5.080
> run 3
> Time: 4.521
> run 4
> Time: 4.841
> run 5
> Time: 4.696
> run 6
> Time: 4.946
> run 7
> Time: 4.754
> run 8
> Time: 4.717
> run 9
> Time: 4.905
> run 10
> Time: 4.814
> avg = 4.7997
>
> And again the two part nop:
>
> run 1
> Time: 4.434
> run 2
> Time: 4.496
> run 3
> Time: 4.801
> run 4
> Time: 4.714
> run 5
> Time: 4.631
> run 6
> Time: 5.178
> run 7
> Time: 4.728
> run 8
> Time: 4.920
> run 9
> Time: 4.898
> run 10
> Time: 4.770
> avg = 4.757
>
>
> This time it was close, but still seems to have some difference.
>
> heh, perhaps it's just noise.
>
> -- Steve
>
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
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