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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:25:41 -0500
From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@...il.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
Andrew Vasquez <andrew.vasquez@...gic.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pci: change msi-x vector to 32bit
On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 11:56 -0700, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 9:13 AM, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 16:39 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> >> > Where exactly is this code in the kernel? Most arches assume the irq is
> >> > an index to a compact table bounded by NR_IRQS, so something like this
> >> > would violate that assumption.
> >>
> >> Yes, which is no bad thing for some platforms. There are some driver
> >> assumptions like that but those have also been stomped.
> >
> > I'm not saying we couldn't do this, or even that we shouldn't; I'm just
> > asking why would we want to?
> >
> > All arches currently seem to have show_interrupts() which loop over
> > 0..NR_IRQS where the interrupt is printed as %d. In this encoded scheme
> > they would show up with rather nastily large numbers that have no
> > visible meaning unless we switch to hex for displaying them.
> >
> > What I'm really saying is that irq as the interrupt number is really the
> > *user's* handle for the interrupt not the machine's, so it needs to be
> > something the user is comfortable with. We could overcome this
> > objection by encoding the number to something meaningful for the
> > user ... I'm just asking if there's any benefit to doing this?
> >
> the code is tip/irq/sparseirq or tip/master
OK, that's either a quilt or a specifier for a git head ...
unfortunately linux-next doesn't give you those, so I'd need either a
commit id or a pointer to the base tree or quilt for that to make sense.
> story:
> 1. for x86_64: first we have NR_IRQS = NR_CPUS * NR_VECTORS, because
> it already supports per_cpu vector
Hmm ... the first thing that springs to mind is are you sure? We have
architectures (like voyager and parisc) that always had these per cpu
vector type interrupts. On each of them we actually factored the CPU
affinity out of the irq number for sound reasons (although the per CPU
vectors still exist): The user understands better that irq line 50 is
currently going to CPU1 and that they could change it to CPU2 (or just
use irqbalance). Combining the affinity into the irq number looks like
a bad idea because users won't be able to parse it correctly.
> 2. SGI want MAX_SMP support: NR_CPUS=4096, so everything is broken.
> 3. Mike spent some time to make every array [NR_CPUS] to per_cpu
> define as possible.
> 4. Mike or someone else reduce NR_IRQS to 224, because NR=256*4096,
> will make kstat_irqs[NR_CPUS][NR_VECTORS*NR_VECTORS] too big, and it
> could be complied.
> 5. IBM guys report their one server is broken, that system GSI > 256,
> so some irq can not work.
> 6. Yinghai tried one patch change NR_IRQS=32*NR_CPUS., but sgi said it
> still broke their system. --- for 2.6.27
> 7. Eric provide one patch NR_IRQS = min(32*NR_CPUS, NR_VECTORS *
> MAX_IO_APICS) --- for 2.6.27
> 8. For 2.6.28 later, Yinghai add code dyn_array, and probe nr_irqs, so
> NR_IRQS related will be dynamically allocated after nr_irqs is probed.
> 9. Eric said using dyn_array still waste ram, because a lot of
> irq_desc is not used. when MSI-X is involved, some card could use 256
> vectors or 4096 in theory.
> 10. Eric said he had one dyn irq_desc, with 90% done. but didn't have
> time to work it out left 10%
> 11. Yinghai add sparese_irq support. those array will be increased by
> 32, and be claimed one by one.
> 12. according to Eric, we could have irq spread out [0, -1U), irq =
> bus/dev/fn + entry_of_msix
> 13. with sparseirq, /proc/interrupts will have irq_number in hex.
>
> but msix current cached irq number, and it only use 16bit to store
> unsigned int irq., and later cards will call request_irq with
> truncated irq_number...card will fallback to MSI or INTa
OK, sorry, I get that there's a bug in the msix_entry ... if it's going
to assign an irq to it, it should at least be the same type as irq.
What I still don't quite get is the benefit of large IRQ spaces ...
particularly if you encode things the system doesn't really need to know
in them.
> only two places need to be changed about that.
>
> BTW, any reason qlogic card need to cache that irq number second times?
>
> YH
>
>
> system with qlogic and lpfc
Yes, but if these are all single CPU bound, the matrix display doesn't
really make sense any more, does it?
James
> LBSuse:~ # cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 CPU4 CPU5
> CPU6 CPU7 CPU8 CPU9 CPU10 CPU11
> CPU12 CPU13 CPU14 CPU15
> 0x0: 111 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 0x4: 450 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge serial
> 0x7: 1 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge
> 0x8: 1 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-edge rtc0
> 0x9: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
> 0x17: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x16: 140 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi
> ohci_hcd:usb2, sata_nv
> 0x15: 384 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi
> ehci_hcd:usb1
> 0x14: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x10: 1083 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi aacraid
> 0x2e: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x2d: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x2c: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x50100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x70100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x78100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x8058100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> aerdrv
> 0x8070100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> aerdrv
> 0x8078100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> aerdrv
> 0x8300100: 41 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> qla2xxx (default)
> 0x83000ff: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> qla2xxx (rsp_q)
> 0x8301100: 41 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> qla2xxx (default)
> 0x83010ff: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge
> qla2xxx (rsp_q)
> 0x300100: 2 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge lpfc
> 0x301100: 2 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge lpfc
> 0x40100: 326 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 none-edge
> 0x48100: 328 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 none-edge
> 0x8040100: 2222 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth2
> 0x8048100: 326 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 none-edge
> NMI: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 Non-maskable interrupts
> LOC: 8782 5209 3029 3222 4556 3328
> 2862 2782 2730 3218 2742 2655
> 3664 3099 3146 3356 Local timer interrupts
> RES: 904 2930 98 65 1083 3723
> 158 84 46 1899 157 60
> 2476 971 114 97 Rescheduling interrupts
> CAL: 12 89 71 65 65 142
> 77 66 65 118 77 67
> 66 106 72 67 function call interrupts
> TLB: 7 90 18 5 3 115
> 16 10 3 123 19 5
> 2 157 18 3 TLB shootdowns
> TRM: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 Thermal event interrupts
> THR: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 Threshold APIC interrupts
> SPU: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 0 Spurious interrupts
> ERR: 1
>
> system with neptune:
> LBSuse:~ # cat /proc/interrupts
> CPU0 CPU1 CPU2 CPU3 CPU4 CPU5
> CPU6 CPU7
> 0x0: 92 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 1 IO-APIC-edge timer
> 0x4: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 1 532 IO-APIC-edge serial
> 0x7: 1 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 IO-APIC-edge
> 0x8: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc0
> 0x9: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
> 0x17: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x16: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 2 105 IO-APIC-fasteoi ohci_hcd:usb2
> 0x15: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 1014 IO-APIC-fasteoi ehci_hcd:usb1
> 0x14: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 1 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv, sata_nv
> 0x2e: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x2d: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x2c: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_nv
> 0x50100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x70100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x78100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x8058100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x8070100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x8078100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge aerdrv
> 0x8301100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010ff: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010fe: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010fd: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010fc: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010fb: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010fa: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f9: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f8: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f7: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f6: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f5: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f4: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f3: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f2: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f1: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010f0: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010ef: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010ee: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010ed: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x83010ec: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 0 PCI-MSI-edge eth5
> 0x40100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 9 5352 PCI-MSI-edge eth0
> 0x48100: 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 4 148 none-edge
> 0x8040100: 0 0 0 154 0
> 0 0 0 none-edge
> 0x8048100: 0 0 0 154 0
> 0 0 0 none-edge
> NMI: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 Non-maskable interrupts
> LOC: 4780 4021 2441 2831 3978 3672
> 2576 4601 Local timer interrupts
> RES: 647 4295 485 282 1324 3561
> 620 1902 Rescheduling interrupts
> CAL: 18 92 53 44 33 53
> 47 39 function call interrupts
> TLB: 23 176 65 41 48 274
> 95 62 TLB shootdowns
> TRM: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 Thermal event interrupts
> THR: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 Threshold APIC interrupts
> SPU: 0 0 0 0 0 0
> 0 0 Spurious interrupts
> ERR: 1
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