linux-kernel - Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model? well sorta.

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Message-id: <48A893F9.8090000@sun.com>
Date:	Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:11:21 -0400
From:	David Collier-Brown <davecb@....com>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>, Jan Harkes <jaharkes@...cmu.edu>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	"Press, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Press@...com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, peterz@...radead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, malware-list@...ts.printk.net,
	hch@...radead.org, andi@...stfloor.org, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [malware-list] TALPA - a threat model?  well sorta.

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com> wrote:
>>/me is HSM clueless and trying to include their needs is proving a
>>challenge.
> 
> 
> I bet it's the same; until you read/mmap... no need to get the data.
> 
> you wouldn't want an "ls -l" or "find" to restore your entire system
> from tape after all :)
> 

The HSMs I'm familiar with keep the inode and the first block of the file on-disk,
so that stat and file commands work. For Windows, you also need to keep the pointer
to the icon to use valid, or create a fake one.

--dave
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