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Message-ID: <18608.26903.80591.84111@harpo.it.uu.se>
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:46:31 +0200
From: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@...uu.se>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@...ux-mips.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@...uu.se>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, hpa@...or.com, mingo@...hat.com,
tglx@...utronix.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc: fix deadlock
Maciej W. Rozycki writes:
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > > The sporadic nature of the bug means that it will probably take a
> > > couple of days of testing and dozens of reboots w/o problems before
> > > I'm confident to say that the problem's been fixed.
> >
> > btw., i've seen that lockup too on a testbox - but havent been able to
> > track it down yet. You went further and presented the bug on a plate by
> > tracking it down to the loop in get_rtc_time() - so now we can both test
> > the fix and see whether the lockups are gone.
>
> Hmm, waiting for 20ms with interrupts disabled sounds like a bad idea --
> a lot of system timer ticks may be lost and some devices may not be happy
> about such a delay either (serial?). I think your proposal only papers
> over the actual bug and it should simply be forbidden to call this
> function with interrupts disabled.
>
> I can see this is a part of the legacy RTC interface, so except from the
> long delay the function itself may have a chance to work with interrupts
> disabled. But with the modern RTC library this is no longer true as some
> RTC chips it supports can only be accessed with interrupts enabled,
> because their accessor functions may sleep. This is for example common
> with RTC chips wired through I2C.
>
> Therefore I think to avoid propagating the design problem with places
> calling get_rtc_time() when they eventually switch to the RTC library it
> would be better to put:
>
> BUG_ON(irqs_disabled());
>
> into get_rtc_time() now and fix the callers which happen to trigger it.
On my C2D, I've only seen the lockup happen when user-space is
using hwclock to init system time (early init) or to flush system
time to the hw (end of shutdown/reboot). And the lockup is always
in hpet_rtc_interrupt. I've never ever seen the lockup while the
system is up and running normally.
So I suspect a bad interaction between the HPET RTC stuff and
the RTC user-space interface.
/Mikael
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