Message-Id: <1219658527.8515.16.camel@twins>
Date:	Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:02:07 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Török Edwin <edwintorok@...il.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, rml@...h9.net,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner mingo@...hat.com" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: Quad core CPUs loaded at only 50% when running a CPU and mmap
	intensive multi-threaded task

On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 12:49 +0300, Török Edwin wrote:
> On 2008-08-25 12:23, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 10:04 +0300, edwin wrote:
> >   
> >> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>     
> >>> On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 00:01 +0300, Török Edwin wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> Hi Ingo,
> >>>>
> >>>> When I run clamd (www.clamav.net), I can only get to load my CPU 50% 
> >>>> (according to top), and disks at 30% (according to iostat -x 3), 
> >>>> regardless how many threads I set (I tried 4, 8, 16, 32).
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>> Can you share your .config, and prehaps tell what kernel version did
> >>> work for you?
> >>>       
> >> Sorry, I forgot to include the .config, its at the end of this mail (the 
> >> cfs debug info output included the .config though)
> >>
> >> Well, I just bought this new box, so there isn't a kernel version that I 
> >> know that worked on this hardware (but I am trying to boot some older 
> >> versions now).
> >> However on my previous box (Athlon64, non-SMP) I have never seen such a 
> >> problem (that the CPU is loaded only 50% with clamd) and I've been
> >> running 2.6.26 and 2.6.27-rc4 there too.
> >>
> >> Details below, short summary here:
> >> 2.6.24: WORKS, clamd 400% CPU, testprogram runs in 27.4 seconds, 67% CPU 
> >> load; and 28.5 seconds w/o setting affinity
> >> 2.6.25+: DOES NOT WORK, clamd 200%-300% CPU, testprogram runs in 38-40 
> >> seconds, 48-48% CPU load, and 47-56 seconds w/o setting affinity
> >>
> >> Debian has 2.6.18, 2.6.22, 2.6.24, 2.6.25, 2.6.26.
> >> 2.6.22 won't work with my lvm, so I can't boot that, so I tried 2.6.24:
> >>
> >> 2.6.24 doesn't have sched_debug enabled in the stock kernel 
> >> unfortunately, but the output of cfs-debug-info.sh is available here, 
> >> maybe it contains some useful info:
> >> http://edwintorok.googlepages.com/testrun-1219645937.tar.gz
> >>
> >> Is this enough info for you to reproduce the problem, or do you want me 
> >> to try and bisect?
> >>     
> >
> > No, I think I know what's going on..
> >
> > mmap() and munmap() need to take the mmap_sem for writing (since they
> > modify the memory map) and you let each thread (one for each cpu) take
> > that process wide lock, twice, for a million times.
> >   
> 
> Are you referring to the mmap_sem lock, or my mutex lock around 
> all_thread_time?

mmap_sem, its process wide, and your test prog bangs on it like there's
no tomorrow.

> > Guess what happens ;-)
> 
> So the problem is that doing mmap() doesn't scale well with multiple 
> threads, because there is contention on mmap_sem?

Indeed.

> Why did 2.6.24 seem to work better?

Perhaps the scheduler overhead did increase, can you try:

echo NO_HRTICK > /debug/sched_features

(after mounting debugfs on /debug, or adjusting the path to where you do
have it mounted)

That might cause some overhead on very high context switch rates.

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