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Date:	Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:44:46 +1000
From:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Stefani Seibold <stefani@...bold.net>,
	Dario Faggioli <raistlin@...ux.it>,
	Max Krasnyansky <maxk@...lcomm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: disabled rt-bandwidth by default

On Tuesday 26 August 2008 19:30, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au> wrote:
> > So... no reply to this? I'm really wondering how it's OK to break
> > documented standards and previous Linux behaviour by default for
> > something that it is trivial to solve in userspace? [...]
>
> I disagree 

Disagree with what? That it's a problem to basically break the guarantee
realtime SCHED_ policies have previously provided?


> and what do you mean by "trivial to solve in user-space"? 

I mean that if some distro has turned on the RT scheduling ulimit by
default and now finds themselves with a local DoS for unpriviliged users
as a result, then either that distro should just make their init scripts
set the throttle and break the API themselves, or they should start a
watchdog at a higher priority than unprivileged user can set.
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