linux-kernel - Re: unprivileged mounts git tree

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Date:	Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:46:00 -0500
From:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
To:	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>
Cc:	ebiederm@...ssion.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	hch@...radead.org, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: unprivileged mounts git tree

Quoting Miklos Szeredi (miklos@...redi.hu):
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > Quoting Miklos Szeredi (miklos@...redi.hu):
> > > Serge, thanks for spotting this: it looks indeed a nasty hole!  I also
> > > agree about the solution.
> > 
> > Are you implementing it, or did you want me to?
> 
> I'll implement it.

Ok, thanks.  I look forward to playing around with it when you publish
the resulting git tree  :)

> > > But yeah, we should think this over very carefully.  Especially
> > > interaction with mount propagation, which has very complicated and
> > > sometimes rather counter-intuitive semantics.
> > 
> > I know we discussed before about whether a propagated mount from a
> > non-user mount to a user mount should end up being owned by the user
> > or not.  I don't recall (and am not checking the code at the moment
> > as your tree is sitting elsewhere) whether we mark the propagated
> > tree with the right nosuid and nodev flags, or whether we call it
> > a user mount or not.
> 
> If the destination is a user mount, then
> 
>  - the propagated mount(s) will be owned by the same user as the destination
>  - the propagated mount(s) will inherit 'nosuid' from the destination
> 
> I remember also thinking about 'nodev' and why it doesn't need similar
> treatment to 'nosuid'.  The reasoning was that 'nodev' is safe as long
> as permissions are enforced, namespace shuffling cannot make it
> insecure.  Does that sound correct?

Yes that sounds correct, thanks for the refresher.

-serge
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