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Message-Id: <1220023713.14358.173.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:28:33 -0500
From:	Adam Litke <agl@...ibm.com>
To:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Kawai Hidehiro <hidehiro.kawai.ez@...achi.com>,
	William Irwin <wli@...omorphy.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] coredump_filter: add hugepage core dumping

On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 08:35 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> Hi
> 
> > > I think VM_RESERVED default dumping bahavior is good,
> > > then I'd like to add coredump_filter mask.
> > > 
> > > This patch doesn't change dafault behavior.
> > 
> > This seems very reasonable to me
> > (though I've little use for coredumps or hugepages myself).
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> > One caution though: how well does it behave when coredumping a large
> > area of hugepages which have not actually been instantiated prior to
> > the coredump?  We have that funny FOLL_ANON ZERO_PAGE code in
> > follow_page() to avoid wasting memory on large uninstantiated anon
> > areas, but hugepages won't go that way.  If the dump hangs waiting for
> > memory to be freed, or OOMkills other processes, that wouldn't be good;
> > whereas if hugepage reservations (I've not followed what happens with
> > them) or whatever just make it skip when no more, that should be okay.
> 
> I think hugepage reservation pages always exist when hugepage COW happend.
> Then, hugepage access never cause try_to_free_pages() nor OOM.

(Mel, since you wrote the private reservation hugetlb code, would you
care to verify the following:)

Well, reserved huge pages _almost_ always exist.  The notable exception
happens when a process creates a MAP_PRIVATE hugetlb mapping and then
forks.  No guarantees are made to the children for access to that
hugetlb mapping.  So if such a child were to core dump an unavailable
huge page, follow_hugetlb_page() would fail.  I think that case is
harmless since it looks like elf_coredump() will replace it with a
zeroed page?

The part of Hugh's email that does deserve more attention is the part
about FOLL_ANON and the ZERO_PAGE.  It seems like an awful waste to zero
out and instantiate huge pages just for a core dump.  I think it would
be worth adding a flag to follow_hugetlb_page() so that it can be
instructed to not fault in un-instantiated huge pages.  This would take
some investigating as to whether it is even valid for
follow_hugetlb_page() to return the ZERO_PAGE().

-- 
Adam Litke - (agl at us.ibm.com)
IBM Linux Technology Center

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