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Message-Id: <20080904171903M.fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Date:	Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:18:52 +0900
From:	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@....ntt.co.jp>
To:	andi@...stfloor.org
Cc:	fujita.tomonori@....ntt.co.jp, joerg.roedel@....com,
	mingo@...hat.com, tglx@...utronix.de, hpa@...or.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com, tony.luck@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] swiotlb: fix dma_alloc_coherent allocation failures
 with swiotlb

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:05:28 +0200
Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 04:58:37PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:44:41 +0200
> > Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2008 at 01:11:47PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:09:51 +0200
> > > > Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@....com> writes:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > The SWIOTLB version of dma_alloc_coherent allocates all memory with
> > > > > > GFP_DMA unconditionally. This leads sometimes unnecessary to allocation
> > > > > > failures. This patch makes the allocation strategy to use the DMA32 zone
> > > > > > first if this is possible. The changes are boot tested on AMD64 and
> > > > > > compile tested for i386 and IA64.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The high level dma_alloc_coherent() does that anyways.
> > > > 
> > > > The high level dma_alloc_coherent means the tricks in
> > > > arch/x86/pci-dma.c? If so, all the tricks has gone in tip/master.
> > > 
> > > Seems wrong -- that is something that is needed by multiple
> > > IOMMUs. Pretty much all which work with real memory instead
> > > of virtual mappings.
> > 
> > Not all the IOMMUs need the old tricks used in arch/x86/pci-dma.c.
> 
> That is what I meant with "with real memory"
> 
> But actually even for real IOMMus it can make sense to maintain
> some memory for bypass.

Even if it's tree, only each IOMMU knows what's the best. That's the
point of these changes to remove the tricks in arch/x86/pci-dma.c and
let IOMMUs do what they want.


> Also there's usually the problem that not all busses are translated,
> e.g. Calgary used to do that so for e.g. dev == NULL allocations you had
> to use  these fallback algorithms anyways.

dev == NULL isn't a minor thing. It's just using the fallback
device. Playing with gfp flag is the major trick. Some (new) IOMMUs
don't need it.

Handling dev == NULL in a common place is fine by me. It's a minor
issue.


> Clearly copying the fallback logic into lots of low level IOMMUs instead
> of having it in one place is a big step backwards.
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