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Date:	Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:34:07 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [git patches] net driver fixes

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 03:07:46PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > You just rejected patches that (a) fixed dead ethernet [de2104x],
> 
> And it's getting submitted now, because?!?
> 
>  (b) fixed an
> > oops [WAN], and
> 
> It's WAN, it's been there forever, who cares and why now?
> 
> > (c) fixed memory corruption [ehea].
> 
> Again, it's been there for quite some time, why is it "now"
> all of sudden now important to integrate this fix?

Because users should not be forced to wait 3 months for fixes, for
admittedly serious bugs, which are ready for them right now.  Small,
self-contained, tested, obvious fixes.

There is just something horribly wrong if you are not taking two-line
fixes for memory corruption, even if the problem existed since
kernel 1.2.13.

	July 13:	2.6.26 released, merge window opens
	July 29:	2.6.27-rc1 released, merge window closes
	Sept 20?	2.6.27 release (wild guess)
	Dec 25?		2.6.28 release (wild guess)

So if a small, easily-mergable fix for a major bug like an oops
appears on July 30, being strict to your plan has this fix waiting
until almost 2009 (2.6.28 release), a wait of over five months.

That is not serving Linux users, our primary customers.

Complaining about the 8139too change, I can see that (even though
Linus takes that stuff via libata all the time).  But about memory
corruption and oopses?  Come on.

	Jeff



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