Message-ID: <20080916121528.GD7397@cs181140183.pp.htv.fi>
Date:	Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:15:28 +0300
From:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>
To:	Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@...il.com>
Cc:	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@...ha.franken.de>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, jeff@...zik.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [git patches] net driver fixes

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:43:05AM +0000, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On 16-09-2008 12:48, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:40:14PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:18:08AM +0200, Thomas Bogendoerfer wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:39:34AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 03:11:25PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >>>>> From: tsbogend@...ha.franken.de (Thomas Bogendoerfer)
> >>>>> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:53:08 +0200
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 02:14:42PM -0700, David Miller wrote:
> >>>>>>> Most of those changes were complete and utter CRAP.
> >>>>>> thank you, but the fix I've sent (de2104x) isn't crap. The bug breaks the 
> >>>>>> current debian-installer for Cobalt Qube1, when it tries to get an
> >>>>>> IP address via dhcp. 
> >>>>> And why is this bug that has been there for YEARS is appropriate
> >>>>> to fix outside of the merge window?
> >>>>> ...
> >>>> Such a fix is even suitable for -stable.
> >>> that was my feeling as well, but if David wants to see it in the next
> >>> merge window, it's his decision. It's not a important fix as the user
> >>> base is obviuosly pretty small. And I didn't know about that bug, when
> >>> the merge windows was open, so I couldn't fix it "in time".
> >> And if it goes in during the next merge window it can immediately go 
> >> into 2.6.27.1 (and even 2.6.26.y if it's still maintained), since the 
> >> fix fulfills Documentation/stable_kernel_rules.txt .
> >>
> >> That doesn't make sense.
> > 
> > Note that my emails are not meant against David personally - he just 
> > seems to have gotten from pushing too much to pushing too few, with
> > such illogical results.
> > 
> > cu
> > Adrian
> 
> Probably he can read.


I'm eagerly awaiting to slap this at Linus the next time he dares to 
directly apply a patch that only fixes a sparse warning outside of a 
merge window...  ;-)


More seriously, there's a difference between Linus' "another random 
improvement" and an "is even suitable for -stable".

I'm not reading Linus' (Cc'ed) statement the way that a patch that is 
appropriate for 2.6.27.1 is not appropriate for -rc now.

If I'm misreading Linus on this it might make sense if they'd discuss 
it at their current cabal meeting.


> Jarek P.
> 
> PS:
> 
> On 04-09-2008 01:24, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >> What's so hard to understand about this?
> > 
> > Here's a simple rule of thumb:
> >  - if it's not on the regression list
> >  - if it's not a reported security hole
> >  - if it's not on the reported oopses list
> > then why are people sending it to me?
> > 
> > IOW, if it's just another random improvement, and you send it to me 
> > outside of the merge window, then what is the point of the merge window? 
> > 
> > 		Linus

cu
Adrian

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