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Message-ID: <48D26DDF.9080402@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:03:59 +0200
From:	Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@...il.com>
To:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
CC:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>, randy.dunlap@...cle.com,
	Carl Henrik Lunde <chlunde@...g.uio.no>,
	Divyesh Shah <dpshah@...gle.com>, eric.rannaud@...il.com,
	fernando@....ntt.co.jp, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	agk@...rceware.org, subrata@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, axboe@...nel.dk,
	Marco Innocenti <m.innocenti@...eca.it>,
	containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	matt@...ehost.com, roberto@...it.it, ngupta@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -mm 1/5] i/o controller documentation

Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 06:07:33PM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
>> Documentation of the block device I/O controller: description, usage,
>> advantages and design.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@...il.com>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/controllers/io-throttle.txt |  377 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 files changed, 377 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>  create mode 100644 Documentation/controllers/io-throttle.txt
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/controllers/io-throttle.txt b/Documentation/controllers/io-throttle.txt
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 0000000..09df0af
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/Documentation/controllers/io-throttle.txt
>> @@ -0,0 +1,377 @@
>> +
>> +               Block device I/O bandwidth controller
>> +
>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> +1. DESCRIPTION
>> +
>> +This controller allows to limit the I/O bandwidth of specific block devices for
>> +specific process containers (cgroups) imposing additional delays on I/O
>> +requests for those processes that exceed the limits defined in the control
>> +group filesystem.
>> +
>> +Bandwidth limiting rules offer better control over QoS with respect to priority
>> +or weight-based solutions that only give information about applications'
>> +relative performance requirements. Nevertheless, priority based solutions are
>> +affected by performance bursts, when only low-priority requests are submitted
>> +to a general purpose resource dispatcher.
>> +
>> +The goal of the I/O bandwidth controller is to improve performance
>> +predictability from the applications' point of view and provide performance
>> +isolation of different control groups sharing the same block devices.
>> +
>> +NOTE #1: If you're looking for a way to improve the overall throughput of the
>> +system probably you should use a different solution.
>> +
>> +NOTE #2: The current implementation does not guarantee minimum bandwidth
>> +levels, the QoS is implemented only slowing down I/O "traffic" that exceeds the
>> +limits specified by the user; minimum I/O rate thresholds are supposed to be
>> +guaranteed if the user configures a proper I/O bandwidth partitioning of the
>> +block devices shared among the different cgroups (theoretically if the sum of
>> +all the single limits defined for a block device doesn't exceed the total I/O
>> +bandwidth of that device).
>> +
> 
> Hi Andrea,
> 
> Had a query. What's your use case for capping max bandwidth? I was
> wondering will proportional bandwidth not cover it. So if we allocate
> weight/share to every cgroup and limit the bandwidth based on shares
> only in case of contention. Otherwise applications get to unlimited
> bandwidth. Much like what cpu controller does or for that matter dm-ioband
> seems to be doing the same thing. Will you not get same kind of QoS here when
> comapred to max-bandwidth. The only thing probably missing is what we call
> hard limit. When BW is available but you don't want a user to use that
> BW, until and unless user has paid for that.

At the beginning my use case was to guarantee a certain level
performance _predictability_. That means no more and no less than the
specified threshold (should I say this would be useful for the real-time
apps? maybe yes).

But at this stage of development IMHO it's worth to implement a more
generic solution, able to guarantee both min/max thresholds (to cover my
original use case) as well as the weight/share functionality to cover a
larger degree use case (QoS for massive shared environments).

-Andrea
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