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Message-ID: <33307c790809221313s3532d851g7239c212bc72fe71@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:13:28 -0700
From:	"Martin Bligh" <mbligh@...gle.com>
To:	"Masami Hiramatsu" <mhiramat@...hat.com>
Cc:	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"Mathieu Desnoyers" <compudj@...stal.dyndns.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@...dmis.org>, od@...ell.com,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	systemtap-ml <systemtap@...rces.redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Unified tracing buffer

> I agree to integrate tracing buffer mechanism, but I don't think
> your proposal is the simplest one.
>
> To simplify, I think the layered buffering mechanism is desirable.
> - The lowest layer just provides named circular buffers(both per-cpu and
>  uni-buffer in system) and read/write scheme.
> - Next layer provides user/kernel interface including controls.
> - Top layer defines packet(and event) formatting utilities.
> - Additionally, it would better provide some library routines(timestamp,
>  event-id synchronize, and so on).
>
> Since this unified buffer is used from different kind of tracers/loggers,
> I don't think all of them(and future tracers) want to be tied down by
> "event-id"+"parameter" format.
> So, Sorry, I disagree about that the tracing buffer defines its *data format*,
> it's just overkill for me.

I think you're right that we can layer this, and we didn't make a particularly
good job of splitting those things out. I'll try to pull together
another revision
to reflect this and other suggested changes.

One thing that I think is still important is to have a unified timestamp
mechanism on everything, so we can co-ordinate different things back
together in userspace from different trace tools, so I intend to keep
that at a lower level, but I think you're right that the event id, etc can
move up into separate layers.
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