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Message-ID: <48E3AB97.8020305@collax.com>
Date:	Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:55:51 +0200
From:	Tilman Baumann <tilman.baumann@...lax.com>
To:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
CC:	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SMACK netfilter smacklabel socket match

Casey Schaufler wrote:
> Tilman Baumann wrote:
>> Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>> Smack will eventually bite you if you're not careful, but users of
>>> MAC systems wouldn't be surprised by that.
>> Speaking of the devil...
>> This is exactly what happened to me right now. I have problems with 
>> _some_ https connects. The problem lies somewhere in openssl.
>> I did not yet find any clue with strace.
>> Is there some straight forward way to audit/debug LSM interventions?
> 
> strace is probably your best bet, as it will tell you what syscalls
> fail. Your current situation is most likely a case where your program
> running with a label "Foo" is trying to communicate with a service on
> a machine that doesn't talk CIPSO and hence Smack is treating all
> packets to and from that host with the ambient (%cat /smack/ambient)
> label, which is "_" unless you've changed it.

Yea, I just found that out.
I did not expect smack to add netlabels by default. I thought I would 
need to configure something before it will start adding netlabels 'on 
the wire'.
In my case 'security' is something that should only concern the local 
machine.
Unfortunately I never bothered to test this before. :-/

If I set /smack/nltype to 'unlabeled' I have effectively shut off the 
network.
I guess I'm missing some essential point here.
Sorry to bother you with such trivialities.

btw. I find it very hard to find informations on the various files in 
/smack/ and it's respective intention and formating rules. 
security/smack/smackfs.c helps a bit.

This is my current setup:
/smack/ambient (default)
/smack/load = _ foo rwx
Unlabeled process work fine.
Labeled processes produce CIPSO labeled packets (which never get any 
answer anywhere from the internet)

If i set /smack/nltype to 'unlabled' i don't even get SYN packets out. 
(operation not permitted)

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