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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0810051714330.17288@asgard.lang.hm>
Date:	Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:19:28 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>
cc:	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, agk@...hat.com, mbroz@...hat.com,
	chris@...chsys.com
Subject: Re: application syncing options (was Re: [PATCH] Memory management
 livelock)

On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Mikulas Patocka wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, david@...g.hm wrote:
>
>> I've also seen discussions of how the
>> kernel filesystem code can do ordered writes without having to wait for them
>> with the use of barriers, is this capability exported to userspace? if so,
>> could you point me at documentation for it?
>
> It isn't. And it is good that it isn't --- the more complicated API, the
> more maintenance work.

I can understand that most software would not want to deal with 
complications like this, but for things thta have requirements similar to 
journaling filesystems (databases for example) it would seem that there 
would be advantages to exposing this capabilities.

David Lang
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