linux-kernel - Re: [patch][rfc] ddds: "dynamic dynamic data structure" algorithm, for adaptive dcache hash table sizing (resend)

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Message-ID: <20081007071827.GB5010@infradead.org>
Date:	Tue, 7 Oct 2008 03:18:27 -0400
From:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
To:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
Cc:	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Paul McKenney <paulmck@...ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [patch][rfc] ddds: "dynamic dynamic data structure" algorithm,
	for adaptive dcache hash table sizing (resend)

On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 09:02:25AM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> (resending with correct netdev address)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I thought I should quickly bring this patch up to date and write it up
> properly, because IMO it is still useful. I earlier had tried to turn the
> algorithm into a library that could be plugged into with specific lookup
> functions and such, but that got really nasty and also difficult to retain
> a really light fastpath. I don't think it is too nasty to open-code it...
> 
> Describe the "Dynamic dynamic data structure" (DDDS) algorithm, and implement
> adaptive dcache hash table sizing using DDDS.
> 
> The dcache hash size is increased to the next power of 2 if the number
> of dentries exceeds the current size of the dcache hash table. It is decreased
> in size if it is currently more than 3 times the number of dentries.
> 
> This might be a dumb thing to do. It also currently performs the hash resizing
> check for each dentry insertion/deletion, and calls the resizing in-line from
> there: that's bad, because resizing takes several RCU grace periods. Rather it
> should kick off a thread to do the resizing, or even have a background worker
> thread checking the sizes periodically and resizing if required.
> 
> With this algorithm, I can fit a whole kernel source and git tree in my dcache
> hash table that is still 1/8th the size it would be before the patch.
> 
> I'm cc'ing netdev because Dave did express some interest in using this for
> some networking hashes, and network guys in general are pretty cluey when it
> comes to hashes and such ;)

Without even looking at the code I'd say geeting the dcache lookup data
structure as a hash is the main problem here.  Dcache lookup is
fundamentally a tree lookup, with some very nice domain splits
(superblocks or directories).  Mapping these back to a global hash is
a rather bad idea, not just for scalability purposes.

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