linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] Normalizing byteorder/unaligned access API

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Message-Id: <1223451274.8195.87.camel@brick>
Date:	Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:34:34 -0700
From:	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@...il.com>
To:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@...asas.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Normalizing byteorder/unaligned access API

On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 09:13 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, Harvey Harrison wrote:
> > [related question regarding the SCSI-private endian helper needs at the end]
> > 
> > Currently on the read side, we have (le16 as an example endianness)
> > 
> > le16_to_cpup(__le16 *)
> > get_unaligned_le16(void *)
> > 
> > And on the write side:
> > 
> > *(__le16)ptr = cpu_to_le16(u16)
> > put_unaligned_le16(u16, void *);
> > 
> > On the read side, Al said he would have preferred the unaligned version
> > take the same types as the aligned, rather than void *.  AKPM didn't think
> 
> As I said before, me too (take the same types as the aligned). I like to
> rely on sparse for:
> 
>     struct {
> 	...
> 	__le32 x;
> 	...
>     } s __attribute__ ((packed));
> 
> get_unaligned_le16(&s.x);

Agreed.

> 
> > the use of get_ was that great as get/put generally implies some kind of reference
> > taking in the kernel.
> 
> OK.
> 
> > As the le16_to_cpup has been around for so long and is more recognizable, let's
> > make it the same for the unaligned case and typesafe:
> > 
> > le16_to_cpup(__le16 *)
> > unaligned_le16_to_cpup(__le16 *)
> 
> I always hated that naming...

True, but there are already lots of places that use them...and I didn't want to
introduce an identical name for something that already exists, so I worked using
the existing name.  I think load_le16/load_unaligned_le16 is the best so far,
but I can see people being unhappy with the duplication of le16_to_cpup.

But it is trivial to move existing users over if that's the way the decision
goes.

> 
> > On the write side, the above get/put and type issues are still there, in addition AKPM felt
> > that the ordering of the put_unaligned parameters was opposite what was intuitive and that
> > the pointer should come first.
> > 
> > In this case, as there is currently no aligned helper (other than in some drivers defining macros)
> > define the api thusly:
> > 
> > Aligned:
> > write_le16(__le16 *ptr, u16 val)
> > 
> > Unaligned:
> > unaligned_write_le16(__le16 *ptr, u16 val)
> 
> Does it write to MMIO I/O space? No? Then please don't use write (like
> in writeb()).
> 
> What about load_{unaligned_,}le16() and store_{unaligned_,}le16()?

OK, will stay away from write as well.  I think store looks good, with
load_ there is still a question of duplicating existing functionality.

Thanks for the feedback.

Harvey

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