lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20081012130103.GA14119@logfs.org>
Date:	Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:01:04 +0200
From:	Jörn Engel <joern@...fs.org>
To:	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>
Cc:	Chris Snook <csnook@...hat.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@....umontreal.ca>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Filesystem for block devices using flash storage?

On Sat, 11 October 2008 16:35:52 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> 
> I don't think ext3 is safe w.r.t. whole eraseblocks disappearing. So
> if you write data 'nearby' root directory and power fails, bye bye
> filesystem, and journal will not help.

No device I've ever seen is that stupid.

Judging the reports I have of actual corruptions, the main problem
appears to be write disturb.  Writes tend to inject charge into
neighboring blocks.  If any part of the device gets hammered with
writes, there is a good chance of corruption nearby.

Write performance is another issue, of course.

Jörn

-- 
You ain't got no problem, Jules. I'm on the motherfucker. Go back in
there, chill them niggers out and wait for the Wolf, who should be
coming directly.
-- Marsellus Wallace
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ