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Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.10.0810160050180.26779@jikos.suse.cz>
Date:	Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:54:13 +0200 (CEST)
From:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>, zippel@...ux-m68k.org,
	sam@...nborg.org, linux-input@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...il.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] HID: fix default building of all quirky devices

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> > Hmm ... I am not really sure, isn't this a bug in Kconfig?
> Not really, more of a misfeature.
> That said, even if we were to consider it a bug, Adrian's patch is 
> obviously the better way to do it. You shouldn't do non-local dependencies 
> (have one config option select fifty other ones), when the local ones are 
> clearer and more readable (have one config option just describe its *own* 
> dependencies).

I agree. 

And even though I really think this is at least a misfeature, it's indeed 
properly documented in Documentation/kbuild/kconfig-language.txt, so I am 
really the only one to blame here.

On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Side note: Adrian too has a very odd and non-obvious way of doing this.
> 
> His patch did config entries like
> 
> 	config HID_BRIGHT
> 		tristate "Bright" if EMBEDDED
> 		default USB_HID
> 		depends on USB_HID
> 
> which is a really odd way to express this. The much more natural one is
> 
> 	config HID_BRIGHT
> 		tristate "Bright" if EMBEDDED
> 		depends on USB_HID
> 		default y
> 
> since there's no point in saying "default USB_HID" + "depends on USB_HID", 
> and that's just confusing. Since it depends on USB_HID, the "default y" 
> will automatically degrade to whatever USB_HID was set to.

Hmm, yes, looks slightly better.

I see you haven't pulled Adrian's fix from my tree yet. So please drop my 
latest pull request, I will do it the "depens on + default y" way and send 
you a new one shortly. There have been some more VID/PID additions 
accumulated in the meantime anyway, so I'll send them too within a new 
pull request.

-- 
Jiri Kosina
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