linux-kernel - Re: [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp

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Message-id: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0811071522270.13034@xanadu.home>
Date:	Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:36:45 -0500 (EST)
From:	Nicolas Pitre <nico@....org>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
Cc:	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@...ux-mips.org>, benh@...nel.crashing.org,
	paulus@...ba.org, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	linux-arch@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb()

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> I want to make sure
> 
>   __m_cnt_hi
>  is read before
>   mmio cnt_lo read
> 
> for the detailed reasons explained in my previous discussion with
> Nicolas here :
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/21/1
> 
> I use smp_rmb() to do this on SMP systems (hrm, actually, a rmb() could
> be required so it works also on UP systems safely wrt interrupts).
> 
> The write side is between the hardware counter, which is assumed to
> increment monotonically between each read, and the value __m_cnt_hi
> updated by the CPU. I don't see where we could put a wmb() there.
> 
> Without barrier, the smp race looks as follow :
> 
> 
> CPU    A                                    B
>                                             read hw cnt low (0xFFFFFFFA)
>        read __m_cnt_hi (0x80000000)
>        read hw cnt low (0x00000001)
>        (wrap detected :
>         (s32)(0x80000000 ^ 0x1) < 0)
>        write __m_cnt_hi = 0x00000001
>                                             read __m_cnt_hi (0x00000001)
>        return 0x0000000100000001
>                                             (wrap detected :
>                                              (s32)(0x00000001 ^ 0xFFFFFFFA) < 0)
>                                             write __m_cnt_hi = 0x80000001
>                                             return 0x80000001FFFFFFFA
>                                                                   (time jumps)

Could you have hardware doing such things?  You would get a non cached 
and more expensive read on CPU B which is not in program order with the 
read that should have happened before, and before that second out of 
order read could be performed, you'd have a full sequence in program 
order performed on CPU A.


Nicolas
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