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Message-Id: <200811141835.17073.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:35:16 +1100
From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"Pallipadi, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: implement remap_pfn_range with apply_to_page_range
On Friday 14 November 2008 16:22, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Friday 14 November 2008 13:56, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >> Nick Piggin wrote:
> >>> This isn't performance critical to anyone?
> >>
> >> The only difference should be between having the specialized code and an
> >> indirect function call, no?
> >
> > Indirect function call per pte. It's going to be slower surely.
>
> Yes, though changing the calling convention to handle (up to) a whole
> page worth of ptes in one call would be fairly simple I think.
Yep. And leaving it alone is even simpler and still faster :)
> > It is accepted practice to (carefully) duplicate the page table walking
> > functions in memory management code. I don't think that's a problem,
> > there is already so many instances of them (just be sure to stick to
> > exactly the same form and variable names, and any update or bugfix to
> > any of them is trivially applicable to all).
>
> I think that's pretty awful practice, frankly, and I'd much prefer there
> to be a single iterator function which everyone uses.
I think its pretty nice. It means you can make the loops fairly
optimal even if they might have slightly different requirements
(different arguments, latency breaks, copy_page_range etc).
> The open-coded
> iterators everywhere just makes it completely impractical to even think
> about other kinds of pagetable structures. (Of course we have at least
> two "general purpose" pagetable walkers now...)
I think that's being way over dramatic. When switching to a
different page table structure, I assure you that copying and
pasting your new walking algorithm a few times will be the least
of your worries :)
It's not meant to be pluggable. Actually this came up last I think
when the UNSW wanted to add page table accessors to abstract this.
They came up with a good set of things, but in the end you can't
justify slowing things down in these paths unless you actually have
a replacement page table structure that gets you a *net win*. So
far, I haven't heard from them again.
No, adding a cycle here or an indirect function call there IMO is
not acceptable in core mm/ code without a good reason.
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