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Date:	Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:34:15 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>
Cc:	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@...ell.com>, heukelum@...tmail.fm,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Alexander van Heukelum <heukelum@...lshack.com>,
	Glauber Costa <gcosta@...hat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@...oo.com.au>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC,v2] x86_64: save_args out of line


* Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com> wrote:

> > but that's the exception. Most of the annotations could be
> > auto-generated.
> 
> Not really.  An implicit .cfi_undefined can be auto-generated for an 
> unannotated instruction with an output register.  An implicit 
> .cfi_register can be auto-generated for an unannotated 
> register-to-register move.  An implicit .cfi_same_value can be 
> auto-generated when you can tell a register is being written with 
> the register or stack slot tha the current CFI state says holds the 
> caller's value of that register.  Beyond that, it gets into either 
> assumptions or hairy analysis of how stack slots are being used and 
> so forth.

i dont buy that argument at all.

Yes, of course full "no changes to the current code at all" automation 
is hard.

But _at minimum_ GAS should automate a large part of this and help us 
out syntactically: make it really easy to human-annotate instructions 
in a _minimal way_. Also, automate the easy bits while at it. Plus 
warn about missing annotations - nesting errors, etc. etc.

there's a ton of easy things GAS could do here that it does not do. 

> [...] Explicit (but simple) macros in the assembly is what I favor.

Yeah. This is the second-best option - but has some limitations. Still 
it is much better than what we have now.

What _clearly_ sucks is the current mess of:

        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        /*CFI_REL_OFFSET        ss,0*/
        pushq %rax /* rsp */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        CFI_REL_OFFSET  rsp,0
        pushq $(1<<9) /* eflags - interrupts on */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        /*CFI_REL_OFFSET        rflags,0*/
        pushq $__KERNEL_CS /* cs */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        /*CFI_REL_OFFSET        cs,0*/
        pushq \child_rip /* rip */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8
        CFI_REL_OFFSET  rip,0
        pushq   %rax /* orig rax */
        CFI_ADJUST_CFA_OFFSET   8

Compared to what we could have (stupid mockup):

        pushq_cf1 %rax			/* rsp */
        pushq_cf1 $(1<<9)		/* eflags - interrupts on */
        pushq_cf1 $__KERNEL_CS		/* cs */
        pushq_cf2 \child_rip		/* rip */
        pushq_cf1 %rax			/* orig rax */

Whoever claims that this cannot be automated in _large_ part isnt 
thinking it through really. Those CFI annotations should never have 
been added in this form.

	Ingo
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