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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:22:29 +0100 From: "stephane eranian" <eranian@...glemail.com> To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...e.hu> Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org, x86@...nel.org, andi@...stfloor.org, sfr@...b.auug.org.au, "Roland McGrath" <roland@...hat.com>, "Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@...hat.com> Subject: Re: [patch 20/24] perfmon: system calls interface Ingo, On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote: > > Thirdly, the check for ->exit_state in pfm_task_incompatible() is not > needed: we've just passed ptrace_check_attach() so we know we just > transitioned the task to task->state == TASK_TRACED. > > If you _ever_ see a task exit TASK_TRACED and go zombie or dead from > there without this code allowing it that means the whole state machine > with ptrace is borked up by perfmon. For example i dont see where the > perfmon-control task parents itself as the exclusive debugger (parent) > of the debuggee-task. > Perfmon requires ptrace ONLY to stop the thread you want to operate on. For instance, to read the counters in a thread via pfm_read(), you need to have that thread stopped, so perfmon can extract the machine state safely. But when the monitored thread runs, it does not have to remain under the control of ptrace. All that is needed is that the thread is stopped while we are in the perfmon syscall. I think ptrace allows this today. We will be able to drop ptrace() once we switch to utrace in which case, the kernel will be able to easily stop the thread when entering the perfmon syscalls. I guess I don't quite understand the meaning of your last sentence. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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