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Date:	Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:58:00 -0500
From:	"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@...glemail.com>
To:	Nadia.Derbey@...l.net
Cc:	serue@...ibm.com, sukadev@...ibm.com, xemul@...nvz.org,
	kir@...nvz.org, linux-man@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: signal handling description for Michaels CLONE_NEWPID man page

Hi Nadia,

Thanks for putting this together.  A few questions below.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:07 AM,  <Nadia.Derbey@...l.net> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Here is the proposal for a description of signals handling in pid
> namespaces.
>
> This applies on top of your CLONE_NEWPID patch.
>
> Regards,
> Nadia
>
> ---
>  man2/clone.2 |   23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 23 insertions(+)
>
> Index: man-pages-3.13/man2/clone.2
> ===================================================================
> --- man-pages-3.13.orig/man2/clone.2    2008-11-24 09:34:30.000000000 +0100
> +++ man-pages-3.13/man2/clone.2 2008-11-27 09:17:53.000000000 +0100
> @@ -226,6 +226,29 @@ configuration option and requires that t
>  .RB (CAP_SYS_ADMIN ).
>  This flag can't be specified in conjunction with
>  .BR CLONE_THREAD .
> +
> +.BR "Signals handling:"
> +just like all the system calls that address a PID, signals can only be sent
> +to a process whose PID belongs to the same namespace as the caller.
> +
> +There are ways signals can be sent across namespaces boundaries such that

Just so I'm clear.  We're talking about the case here where, for
example, a process in a parent namespace sends a signal to a process
in the child namespace.  In such a case, the PID of the sender is not
meaningful.  Right?

> +the sender does not have a valid pid in the receiver's pid namespace.
> +In such cases, the sender pid will be seen by the receiver as a 0 value
> +(this has an impact, for example, on the
> +.BR siginfo_t
> +structure contents - NOTE, this is still under development).

Can you fill me in on the possibilities of "this is still under development"?

Cheers,

Michael

> +The "init" process of a PID namespace has a particular status, since it
> +is known both by its children as PID 1 and by its father's PID namespace
> +as any other PID. Thus, the "init" process of a PID namespace can be sent
> +any signal by a process that belongs to its ancestor's PID namespace (given
> +that the sender has the appropriate permission). But the only signals that
> +can be sent to the "init" process of a PID namespace from its own namespace
> +are those for which it has explicitly installed signal handlers.
> +More precisely, signals are sent successfully (i.e
> +.BR kill (2)
> +will not fail), but the "init" process will silently ignore unhandled signals.
> +
>  .TP
>  .BR CLONE_PARENT " (since Linux 2.3.12)"
>  If
>
> --
>



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