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Date:	Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:55:49 +0100
From:	Rolf Eike Beer <eike-kernel@...tec.de>
To:	Alex Chiang <achiang@...com>
Cc:	Trent Piepho <xyzzy@...akeasy.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>,
	"linux-pci" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>, gregkh@...e.de
Subject: Re: Problems with fakephp

Alex Chiang wrote:
> * Rolf Eike Beer <eike-kernel@...tec.de>:
> > Alex Chiang wrote:
> > > I think the way forward is:
> > >
> > > 	- merge in the function level hotplug patch
> >
> > Sorry that I don't get the point. To PCI Hotplug core or to fakephp?
>
> I was talking about Trent's patch to add the "remove" attribute
> to the pci-sysfs. Not fakephp.
>
> > > 	- wholesale replacement of fakephp with new fakephp
> > > 	- schedule new fakephp for deprecation
> >
> >                    ^^^
> >
> > I don't think so.
>
> If we get function level reset as part of the PCI core, then I
> don't see what fakephp offers us anymore.

Why add a new fakephp if you want to remove it right after that?

> > > 	- encourage anyone who wants function level hotplug to
> > > 	  use the 'remove' attribute
> > >
> > > Thoughts? Jesse, Willy, Eike, Greg?
> >
> > Oh yes, let's start using dummyphp ;) That one already handled
> > the rescan long ago. But I think it's a bit outdated at the
> > moment, I haven't touched it for month. Looks like I need to
> > bring it back to live.
>
> I take it you are not impressed with my proposal? Care to explain why not?

It's a long fight between me and Greg about fakephp. I wrote dummyphp, fakephp 
is a for of an early version of dummyphp that I never liked. So if anyone 
comes up with "fakephp can not do $foobar" my first answer is "try dummyphp". 
So if you want to remove fakephp I'm the first do support you *eg* Yes, this 
probably is mostly personal taste and not so much technical, but I'm just 
human ;)

Eike

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