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Message-ID: <ac3eb2510812070821w53ffccfbn73ac40d6a1380553@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 7 Dec 2008 17:21:01 +0100
From:	"Kay Sievers" <kay.sievers@...y.org>
To:	"Alan Cox" <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	"Herbert Xu" <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>, zbr@...emap.net,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Linux Crypto Mailing List" <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Runaway loop with the current git.

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 17:09, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>> Even when this works around it, the problem that the kernel triggers
>> module loading on /dev/console access stays and needs to be fixed
>> instead.
>
> It isn't a problem. It is trying to have hotplug load a suitable driver.
> This is what is supposed to happen.

No, it's not. 5:1 is _in_ the kernel, and must not be tried to be
loaded by the kernel. We need to make /dev/console access return
-ENODEV if not available, not try to load a module for it.

It is a problem. It's broken behavior, and it breaks shipped products
with any innocent future driver change like Herbert's.

Please start to think about the problem, and don't repeat things that
do not make sense, and never made any sense.

Thanks,
Kay
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