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Message-ID: <34909.1228706592@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date:	Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:23:12 -0500
From:	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@...emap.net>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Runaway loop with the current git.

On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:22:41 +0100, Kay Sievers said:

> We are _not_ loading a console driver that way, we try to load the
> console device itself, not the driver. There is no driver for 5:1 in
> any module.

Semantic quibbling, trying to paper over stupidity.

It doesn't really matter if it's a "console driver" or "the console device
itself".  If you're in modprobe loading *any* piece of "all the stuff needed
to make open("/dev/console") work", the last thing you want to be doing
is opening /dev/console to complain about something not working.

As Alan said several times now, there really *is* a requirement that early
userspace has its act together.

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