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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:04:51 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
Peter Klotz <peter.klotz@....at>, stable@...nel.org,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
Roman Kononov <kernel@...onov.ftml.net>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, xfs@....sgi.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: fix lockless pagecache reordering bug (was Re:
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 12:12 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 10:44:27AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:30:55AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > Putting an rcu_dereference there might work, but I think it misses a
> > > subtlety of this code.
> >
> > No, _you_ miss the subtlety of something that can change under you.
> >
> > Look at radix_tree_deref_slot(), and realize that without the
> > rcu_dereference(), the compiler would actually be allowed to think that it
> > can re-load anything from *pslot several times. So without my one-liner
> > patch, the compiler can actually do this:
> >
> > register = load_from_memory(pslot)
> > if (radix_tree_is_indirect_ptr(register))
> > goto fail:
> > return load_from_memory(pslot);
> >
> > fail:
> > return RADIX_TREE_RETRY;
>
> My guess is that Nick believes that the value in *pslot cannot change
> in such as way as to cause radix_tree_is_indirect_ptr()'s return value
> to change within a given RCU grace period, and that Linus disagrees.
Nick's belief would indeed be true IFF all modifying ops including all
uses of radix_tree_replace_slot() are serialized wrt. each other.
However, since radix_tree_deref_slot() is the counterpart of
radix_tree_replace_slot(), one would indeed expect rcu_dereference()
therein, much like Linus suggests.
While what Nick says is true, the lifetime management of the data
objects is arranged externally from the radix tree -- I still think we
need the rcu_dereference() even for that argument, as we want to support
RCU lifetime management as well.
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