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Message-ID: <20090105215832.GR6959@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Mon, 5 Jan 2009 13:58:32 -0800
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Peter Klotz <peter.klotz@....at>, stable@...nel.org,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Roman Kononov <kernel@...onov.ftml.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, xfs@....sgi.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] mm: fix lockless pagecache reordering bug (was Re:

On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 10:04:51PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 12:12 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 10:44:27AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 09:30:55AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > > Putting an rcu_dereference there might work, but I think it misses a 
> > > > subtlety of this code.
> > > 
> > > No, _you_ miss the subtlety of something that can change under you.
> > > 
> > > Look at radix_tree_deref_slot(), and realize that without the 
> > > rcu_dereference(), the compiler would actually be allowed to think that it 
> > > can re-load anything from *pslot several times. So without my one-liner 
> > > patch, the compiler can actually do this:
> > > 
> > > 	register = load_from_memory(pslot)
> > > 	if (radix_tree_is_indirect_ptr(register))
> > > 		goto fail:
> > > 	return load_from_memory(pslot);
> > > 
> > >    fail:
> > > 	return RADIX_TREE_RETRY;
> > 
> > My guess is that Nick believes that the value in *pslot cannot change
> > in such as way as to cause radix_tree_is_indirect_ptr()'s return value
> > to change within a given RCU grace period, and that Linus disagrees.
> 
> Nick's belief would indeed be true IFF all modifying ops including all
> uses of radix_tree_replace_slot() are serialized wrt. each other.
> 
> However, since radix_tree_deref_slot() is the counterpart of
> radix_tree_replace_slot(), one would indeed expect rcu_dereference()
> therein, much like Linus suggests.
> 
> While what Nick says is true, the lifetime management of the data
> objects is arranged externally from the radix tree -- I still think we
> need the rcu_dereference() even for that argument, as we want to support
> RCU lifetime management as well.

Makes sense to me!

							Thanx, Paul
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