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Message-Id: <1231538387.5825.2.camel@brick>
Date:	Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:59:47 -0800
From:	Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@...il.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Peter Morreale <pmorreale@...ell.com>,
	Sven Dietrich <SDietrich@...ell.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v7][RFC]: mutex: implement adaptive spinning

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 13:50 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Harvey Harrison wrote:
> > 
> > __needs_inline?  That would imply that it's for correctness reasons.
> 
> .. but the point is, we have _thousands_ of inlines, and do you know which 
> is which? We've historically forced them to be inlined, and every time 
> somebody does that "OPTIMIZE_INLINE=y", something simply _breaks_.
> 

My suggestion was just an alternative to __force_inline as a naming...I agree that
inline should mean __always_inline.....always.

> So instead of just continually hitting our head against this wall because 
> some people seem to be convinced that gcc can do a good job, just do it 
> the other way around. Make the new one be "inline_hint" (no underscores 
> needed, btw), and there is ansolutely ZERO confusion about what it means. 

agreed.

> At that point, everybody knows why it's there, and it's clearly not a 
> correctness issue or anything else.
> 
> Of course, at that point you might as well argue that the thing should not 
> exist at all, and that such a flag should just be removed entirely. Which 
> I certainly agree with - I think the only flag we need is "inline", and I 
> think it should mean what it damn well says.

Also agreed, but there needs to start being some education about _not_ using
inline so much in the kernel.

Harvey

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