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Date:	Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:31:09 -0500
From:	"Mike Snitzer" <snitzer@...il.com>
To:	"Andreas Dilger" <adilger@....com>
Cc:	"Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@...e.hu>,
	"Nicholas Miell" <nmiell@...cast.net>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"jim owens" <jowens@...com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	"Chris Mason" <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@...dmis.org>, paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"Gregory Haskins" <ghaskins@...ell.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <matthew@....cx>,
	"Andi Kleen" <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"Nick Piggin" <npiggin@...e.de>,
	"Peter Morreale" <pmorreale@...ell.com>,
	"Sven Dietrich" <SDietrich@...ell.com>, sam@...nborg.org,
	"Dave Anderson" <anderson@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: source line numbers with x86_64 modules? [Was: Re: [patch] measurements, numbers about CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING=y impact]

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Andreas Dilger <adilger@....com> wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2009  16:15 -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>> In my experience, there are very few kernel versions and hardware for
>> which kdump works.  I've talked to the people who have to make kdump
>> work, and every 12-18 months, with a new set of enterprise kernels
>> comes out, they have to go and fix kdump so it works again for the set
>> of hardware that they care about, and for the kernel version involved.
>
> I'm sad that netconsole/netdump never made it big.  It was fairly useful,
> and extending the eth drivers to add the polling mode was trivial to do.
> We were using that for a few years, but it got replaced by kdump and it
> appears to be less usable IMHO.

Less usable in terms of ease of configuration and use?  Or
reliability?  In practice netdump's non-interrupt-driven polling mode
proved fairly reliable but it seems to me kdump provides more reliable
dumping than netdump.  Because you're performing the kdump from a
reliable new dump kernel (provided the initial kexec transition to the
dump kernel works properly).

Mike
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