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Message-Id: <1231773620.6365.21.camel@gaara.bos.redhat.com>
Date:	Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:20:20 -0500
From:	Kristian Høgsberg <krh@...hat.com>
To:	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, dcm@....org,
	Nadia Derbey <Nadia.Derbey@...l.net>,
	linux1394-devel <linux1394-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ibm.com>,
	Manfred Spraul <manfred@...orfullife.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lib/idr.c: Zero memory properly in idr_remove_all

On Sat, 2009-01-10 at 11:05 +0100, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
...
> > Are we sure that all the other callers of free_layer() are freeing
> > zeroed objects?
> > 
> > It would be cleaner, safer and quite possibly faster to remove the
> > constructor altogether and use kmem_cache_zalloc() to allocate new
> > objects.
> 
> Yes, it sounds at least safer if the allocation path should be fixed up.
> 
> The zeroing was done in idr_remove_all() though since Kristian added it
> in 2.6.23, until 2.6.26 inclusive.
> 
> Kristian, was there a deeper reason to do it at deallocation instead of
> allocation, and does the reason still apply today?

Oh wow, that's a long time ago... The idr implementation caches unused,
zeroed out idr_layers in a free list in the idr struct for later use.
If no layers are in the cache, the idr_pre_get() function will allocate
one from the kmem_cache, which will zero out the layer in the ctor, and
then add it to the idr free list.  There are two other ways a layer can
go back to the free list: 1) when we free up a layer by freeing the
entries one by one, in which case the layer is already zeroed out, or in
idr_remove_all(), where we just zero it out brute force.  The problem
isn't about returning un-zeroed-out objects to the kmem cache, the
problem is returning them to the idr free list.

As far as I know the kmem_cache allocator is plenty fast and we could
just drop the entire free list and allocate out of the kmem cache
everytime in idr_pre_alloc().  If we're doing that, we should really,
please, just drop the stupid idr_pre_get() then idr_get_new() and retry
if fail scheme.  Every idr use I've seen could just do the whole thing
under a mutex and not worry about the awkward retry idea.  We don't have
to break API, we can just add a new function idr_alloc_new(idr, ptr, id,
gfp) that just does idr_pre_alloc() and then idr_get_new() under the
assumption that the client has taken the required mutex.  If the client
protects access to the idr using a mutex or spinlock, we can do
idr_pre_get() and idr_get_new() in succession without anybody else
grabbing that new layer from under us in the meantime.  Same thing for
idr_get_new_above(), of course.  Anyways... :)

cheers,
Kristian



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