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Message-Id: <200901151204.23208.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Date:	Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:04:21 +1030
From:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	travis@....com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, steiner@....com,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>
Subject: Re: regarding the x86_64 zero-based percpu patches

On Tuesday 13 January 2009 04:14:58 Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 2M of per cpu data doesn't make sense, and likely indicates a design
> flaw somewhere.  It just doesn't make sense to have large amounts of
> data allocated per cpu.
> 
> The most common user of per cpu data I am aware of is allocating one
> word per cpu for counters.

This is why I did a brief audit.  Here it is:

With x86/32 allyesconfig (trimmed a little, until it booted under kvm)
we have 37148 bytes of static percpu data, and 117228 bytes of dynamic
percpu data.

File and line			Number		Size		Total
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1287		 21		2048		43008
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1290		 21		2048		43008
kernel/workqueue.c:819		 72		 128		 9126
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1287		 48		 128		 6144
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1290		 48		 128		 6144
net/ipv4/route.c:3258		  1		4096		 4096
include/linux/genhd.h:271	 72		  40		 2880
lib/percpu_counter.c:77		194		   4		  776
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1287		  1		 288		  288
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1290		  1		 288		  288
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1287		  1		 256		  256
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1290		  1		 256		  256
net/core/neighbour.c:1424	  4		  44		  176
kernel/kexec.c:1143		  1		 176		  176
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1287		  1		 104		  104
net/ipv4/af_inet.c:1290		  1		 104		  104
arch/x86/.../acpi-cpufreq.c:528	 96		   1		   96
arch/x86/acpi/cstate.c:153	  1		  64		   64
net/.../nf_conntrack_core.c:1209  1		  60		   60

Others:								  178

This is why my patch series adds "big_percpu_alloc" (basically identical to current code) for the bigger/unbounded users.

I don't think moving per-cpu areas is going to fly.  We do put complex datastructures in there. And you're going to need preempt_disable() on all per-cpu ops on many archs to make it work (assuming you use stop_machine to do the realloc.  Even a rough audit quickly becomes overwhelming: 20 of the first 1/4 of DECLARE_PER_CPUs are non-movable datastructures.

Cheers,
Rusty.
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