linux-kernel - Re: next-20090202: task kmemleak:763 blocked for more than 120 seconds.

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Message-ID: <20090203004141.GA22718@nowhere>
Date:	Tue, 3 Feb 2009 01:41:42 +0100
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@...gle.com>
Cc:	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	Alexander Beregalov <a.beregalov@...il.com>,
	"linux-next@...r.kernel.org" <linux-next@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: next-20090202: task kmemleak:763 blocked for more than 120
	seconds.

On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 01:57:40PM -0800, Mandeep Singh Baines wrote:
> Frédéric Weisbecker (fweisbec@...il.com) wrote:
> > 2009/2/2 Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>:
> > > Alexander Beregalov <a.beregalov@...il.com> wrote:
> > >> It seems it is blocked forever.
> > >
> > > Scanning the full memory may take a lot of time, depending on the
> > > amount of RAM and the number of objects allocated. It is not unlikely
> > > to take more than 120 seconds on some loaded systems. However, it
> > > should call schedule() periodically to let other tasks run. Is your
> > > system unresponsive during this?
> > >
> > >> [ 1704.619898] INFO: task kmemleak:763 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
> > >> [ 1704.697951] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
> > >> disables this message.
> > >> [ 1704.791613] kmemleak      D 0000000000000001  6008   763      2
> > > [...]
> > >> [ 1706.246334] no locks held by kmemleak/763.
> > >
> > > It looks like the kmemleak thread is in the TASK_UNINTERUPTIBLE state.
> > > This happens when it calls schedule_timeout_uninterruptible() to sleep
> > > between scans. It probably took more than 120 to scan the memory and
> > > hence the report.
> > >
> > > It doesn't look like a problem, only that the watchdog thread checks
> > > for uninterruptible tasks. I can try to make it sleep with
> > > TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE to avoid the message.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Catalin
> > > --
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > May be it would be better to make the softlockup detector hooking into
> > schedule_timeout()
> > (ie by using a tracepoint) to check if a thread chose to sleep more
> > than hung_task_timeout_secs
> > intentionally in a TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE state.
> > 
> > Fixing it into kmemleak would not solve the problem in other tasks
> > which do similar sleeps...
> > 
> 
> The hung_task timeout is now 480 seconds because of sys_sync:
> 
> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb822db465bd9fd4208eef1af4490539b236c54e


Oh ok.

 
> But are there are really any other tasks which call
> schedule_timeout_uninterruptibl() for with a timeout >480 seconds?


I doubt it, you're right :-)


> Right now kmemleak appears to be the only exception. (A quick grep didn't turn
> anything up.) And it is trivial to change kmemleak to use INTERRUPTIBLE.
> Might even be a nice feature. You could stop it faster that way.


Right. BTW, I wonder how it behaves in case of suspend to disk.
But changing the state to TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE wouldn't change it in this case since the
signals are only sent to userpace threads to freeze them.

Kernel threads try to freeze by themselves.

But for such very long schedule_timeout, will the hibernation wait for kmemleak
to wake up and then try_to_freeze() before suspend to disk?

Does kmemleak listen to power events to wake up itself in such case? Sorry
I didn't look at kmemleak sources...


> I suspect cases where long UNINTERRUPTIBLE sleeps is the right solution are
> extremely rare. Since kmemleak can be modified, maybe hold off on ignoring
> schedule_timeout_uninterruptible(). Not exempting schedule_timeout_uninter*
> reduces code sprawl and discourages long UNINTERRUPTIBLE sleeps.

Right.


> > Mandeep, if you agree I can try something? Or perhaps you prefer to do
> > it yourself. As you wish.
> 
> Nah, don't wait for me. If you have a useful patch, just send it;) I'm
> actually not the maintainer of hung_task, mingo@...e.hu is, but I am more than
> happy to review patches.


Thanks, but since the delay has been enlarged and such long sleeping threads should be rare,
it doesn't seem to required yet. And if it needs to be changed, false warning will be reported :-)

Thanks.

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