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Message-Id: <1233811493.4612.69.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:24:53 +1100
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	Roland Dreier <rdreier@...co.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Eli Cohen <eli@...lanox.co.il>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@...abs.org, Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
Subject: Re: FW: [PATCH] powerpc/mm: Export HPAGE_SHIFT

On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 21:10 -0800, Roland Dreier wrote:
> > Note that g_u_p() has all sort of shortcommings... we were discussing
>  > some of that recently due to bugs reported from the field.
>  > 
>  > The problem mostly is that you cannot guarantee that the physical page
>  > will remain mapped to that virtual address in the process. For example,
>  > if your code is part of some library used by an application, and that
>  > application somewhere does a fork/exec (for example, a system() call to
>  > run a shell helper), copy-on-write will hit, and you may end up with
>  > the child process getting the original physical page and the original
>  > process getting the copy...
> 
> Believe me, I'm well aware of that.  We added VM_DONTCOPY to allow apps
> to fork() without the child triggering COW, but that means only the
> parent process can use the mapped memory (and the app has to worry about
> page boundaries etc).

Right, but then you need to set that in the VMA's, and thus gone is your
nice fast g_u_p() that doesn't touch VMAs :-)

> Yes, but unfortunately MPI says apps can allocate memory however they
> damn well please... in any case these issues are all-too-well-known in
> the RDMA world for quite a while.

Yup. What do you think of the idea of pre-COWing pages with an elevated
count at fork time ?

Cheers,
Ben.


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