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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902052131080.5262@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:32:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <srostedt@...hat.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ring-buffer: add NMI protection for spinlocks
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>
> [ added Arjan ]
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c b/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > > index 4d33224..4c68358 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > > @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ static void ftrace_mod_code(void)
> > > MCOUNT_INSN_SIZE);
> > > }
> > >
> > > -void ftrace_nmi_enter(void)
> > > +void arch_ftrace_nmi_enter(void)
> > > {
> > > atomic_inc(&in_nmi);
> >
> > This in_nmi thing looks a bit awkward. It's not very clear from the
> > code what it does or why it exists, but it looks like I'm going to have
> > to get used to that...
> >
> > Surely it is buggy? It's incremented by _any_ cpu, so code which reads
> > it (eg, prepare_ftrace_return()) will bale out if some other CPU
> > happened to be in the middle of taking an NMI.
Arg! Completely ignore this. I did not look at the function you mentioned.
I was thinking about the code modification.
Yes! It is buggy :-p
The prepare_ftrace_return only wants to bail if it is in an nmi on the
current CPU.
/me goes to write a patch.
-- Steve
>
> And that is exactly what we want it to do ;-)
>
> This is code modification. If you modify code that another cpu is
> executing with, the result is undefined. In my tests to cause this type of
> error, I usually get a general protection fault.
>
> To modify code safely, you must act like a uniprocessor. That is, the code
> you modify must not be executing on another CPU. We use stop_machine to
> help us out here, but under NMI stress tests, we found that we can crash,
> because the NMI will execute code being modified. Stop_machine does not
> disable NMIs on other CPUS.
>
> To solve this, we sync up the modification with the NMI with a couple of
> variables. That's what all those memory barriers are for.
>
> When we go to modify a line of code, we set a variable that we are doing
> so, wait for all NMIs to finish, then modify the code, wait for NMIs
> again, and repeat on the next line to modify.
>
> If the NMI goes off on any CPU, it increments the in_nmi counter. If the
> mod code flag is set, the NMI modifies the code.
>
> The trick here is that the crash only occurs if the code is modified as it
> is being executed on. But it will not crash if the code is written to with
> the same data as it was. In other words, it is fine to write the code and
> execute it, if what you are writing is what is already there. No
> modification being done.
>
> All NMIs that go off will modify the same code. Even if the code being
> modified is in a NMI code path, only the first NMI that goes off will
> actually modify it, the rest will just be writting the same data to the
> location. Even the main code will be writing the same data. No races.
>
>
>
> >
> > Would it not be better to make in_nmi a per-cpu thing, make it a piece
> > of first-class kernel infrastructure, add a nice interface to it, hoist
> > it up into generic code, call that code from arch NMI handlers, call
> > that interface from ftrace, etc? Or perhaps it could be implemented in
> > task_struct, alongside in_irq(), in_softirq(), etc. There are three bits
> > left in ->preempt_count.
>
> I agree, we should have a per cpu nmi code. I can write that up and use
> it for the ring buffer. But the call back for the ftrace code that I
> explained here must still be made. We need a "global" nmi counter for it
> to work.
>
> -- Steve
>
> >
> > This approach would remove the duplication which this patch is
> > attempting to add.
> >
> > Plus there's already quite a bit of duplication in
> > arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c between the
> > CONFIG_DYNAMIC_FTRACE/!CONFIG_DYNAMIC_FTRACE hunks. Two definitions of
> > in_nmi, duplicated inc/dec thereof?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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