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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0902052131080.5262@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date:	Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:32:41 -0500 (EST)
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@...hat.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] ring-buffer: add NMI protection for spinlocks


On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> 
> [ added Arjan ]
> 
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c b/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > > index 4d33224..4c68358 100644
> > > --- a/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > > +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c
> > > @@ -113,7 +113,7 @@ static void ftrace_mod_code(void)
> > >  					     MCOUNT_INSN_SIZE);
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > -void ftrace_nmi_enter(void)
> > > +void arch_ftrace_nmi_enter(void)
> > >  {
> > >  	atomic_inc(&in_nmi);
> > 
> > This in_nmi thing looks a bit awkward.  It's not very clear from the
> > code what it does or why it exists, but it looks like I'm going to have
> > to get used to that...
> > 
> > Surely it is buggy?  It's incremented by _any_ cpu, so code which reads
> > it (eg, prepare_ftrace_return()) will bale out if some other CPU
> > happened to be in the middle of taking an NMI.

Arg! Completely ignore this. I did not look at the function you mentioned.
I was thinking about the code modification.

Yes! It is buggy :-p

The prepare_ftrace_return only wants to bail if it is in an nmi on the 
current CPU.

/me goes to write a patch.

-- Steve

> 
> And that is exactly what we want it to do ;-)
> 
> This is code modification. If you modify code that another cpu is 
> executing with, the result is undefined. In my tests to cause this type of 
> error, I usually get a general protection fault.
> 
> To modify code safely, you must act like a uniprocessor. That is, the code 
> you modify must not be executing on another CPU. We use stop_machine to 
> help us out here, but under NMI stress tests, we found that we can crash, 
> because the NMI will execute code being modified. Stop_machine does not 
> disable NMIs on other CPUS.
> 
> To solve this, we sync up the modification with the NMI with a couple of 
> variables. That's what all those memory barriers are for.
> 
> When we go to modify a line of code, we set a variable that we are doing 
> so, wait for all NMIs to finish, then modify the code, wait for NMIs
> again, and repeat on the next line to modify.
> 
> If the NMI goes off on any CPU, it increments the in_nmi counter. If the 
> mod code flag is set, the NMI modifies the code.
> 
> The trick here is that the crash only occurs if the code is modified as it 
> is being executed on. But it will not crash if the code is written to with 
> the same data as it was. In other words, it is fine to write the code and 
> execute it, if what you are writing is what is already there. No 
> modification being done.
> 
> All NMIs that go off will modify the same code. Even if the code being 
> modified is in a NMI code path, only the first NMI that goes off will 
> actually modify it, the rest will just be writting the same data to the 
> location. Even the main code will be writing the same data. No races.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Would it not be better to make in_nmi a per-cpu thing, make it a piece
> > of first-class kernel infrastructure, add a nice interface to it, hoist
> > it up into generic code, call that code from arch NMI handlers, call
> > that interface from ftrace, etc?  Or perhaps it could be implemented in
> > task_struct, alongside in_irq(), in_softirq(), etc.  There are three bits
> > left in ->preempt_count.
> 
> I agree, we should have a per cpu nmi code. I can write that up and use
> it for the ring buffer. But the call back for the ftrace code that I 
> explained here must still be made. We need a "global" nmi counter for it 
> to work.
> 
> -- Steve
> 
> > 
> > This approach would remove the duplication which this patch is
> > attempting to add.
> > 
> > Plus there's already quite a bit of duplication in
> > arch/x86/kernel/ftrace.c between the
> > CONFIG_DYNAMIC_FTRACE/!CONFIG_DYNAMIC_FTRACE hunks.  Two definitions of
> > in_nmi, duplicated inc/dec thereof?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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