lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <87hc2u61e9.fsf@free.fr>
Date:	Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:56:30 +0100
From:	Damien Wyart <damien.wyart@...e.fr>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Bug #12650] Strange load average and ksoftirqd behavior with 2.6.29-rc2-git1

* Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> [090216 10:50]:
> hm, we need a trace with both abstime and process information included:

>   echo funcgraph-proc     > trace_options
>   echo funcgraph-abstime  > trace_options

> Also, at 140 msecs the duration is a bit short - could you please make a 
> 1-2 seconds capture? You can do that by increasing the number in 
> buffer_size_kb 10-fold:

>    echo 14100 > buffer_size_kb 

Ok, I've redone a trace with these options enabled. The file is here:
http://damien.wyart.free.fr/ksoftirqd_pb/trace_tip_2009.02.16_ksoftirqd_pb_abstime_proc.txt.gz

> Hm ... even with this limited trace, there's an unusually high amount of 
> RCU activities. Each activity goes like this:

>   457.680976 |   1)               |  do_softirq() {
>   457.680976 |   1)               |    __do_softirq() {
>   457.680977 |   1)               |      rcu_process_callbacks() {
>   457.680977 |   1)               |        __rcu_process_callbacks() {
> 4  457.680978 |   1)   0.478 us    |          force_quiescent_state();
>   457.680979 |   1)   1.591 us    |        }
>   457.680979 |   1)               |        __rcu_process_callbacks() {
>   457.680980 |   1)   0.478 us    |          force_quiescent_state();
>   457.680981 |   1)               |          cpu_quiet() {
>   457.680981 |   1)   0.506 us    |            _spin_lock_irqsave();
>   457.680982 |   1)   0.496 us    |            _spin_unlock_irqrestore();
>   457.680983 |   1)   2.545 us    |          }
>   457.680984 |   1)   4.626 us    |        }
>   457.680985 |   1)   7.823 us    |      }
>   457.680985 |   1)   0.496 us    |      _local_bh_enable();
>   457.680986 |   1)   9.845 us    |    }
>   457.680987 |   1) + 10.962 us   |  }

> I've Cc:-ed Paul, as you have tree-RCU enabled, which is a new feature 
> in v2.6.29:

>  #
>  # RCU Subsystem
>  #
>  # CONFIG_CLASSIC_RCU is not set
>  CONFIG_TREE_RCU=y
>  # CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU is not set
>  # CONFIG_RCU_TRACE is not set
>  CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT=32
>  # CONFIG_RCU_FANOUT_EXACT is not set
>  # CONFIG_TREE_RCU_TRACE is not set
>  # CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU_TRACE is not set

> Damien, as an experiment, if you change your config to 
> CONFIG_CLASSIC_RCU=y, does the ksoftirqd problem go away?

Yes, in that case the problem completely goes away. Nice catch!

> On the other hand ... the softirq processing there looks anomalous in
> itself, and might be due to some compiler bug perhaps. Could you try
> the debug patch below please (you'll get it automatically if you
> update to latest -tip), and redo the trace - the ftrace_printk() info
> should now be embedded in the trace. The expected result would be for
> the printed ot value to be non-zero at the #1 point, and zero at the
> #2 point.

> Note: if it's a compiler optimization bug then this patch might make the 
> whole problem go away.

> 	Ingo

> ------------------>
> >From 2d7cf65eec92937bff1073311f6843aa7189bff2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:48:37 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] softirq: debug

> Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
> ---
>  kernel/softirq.c |    2 ++
>  1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

> diff --git a/kernel/softirq.c b/kernel/softirq.c
> index 3dd0d13..110cad0 100644
> --- a/kernel/softirq.c
> +++ b/kernel/softirq.c
> @@ -196,7 +196,9 @@ asmlinkage void __do_softirq(void)
>  	cpu = smp_processor_id();
>  restart:
>  	/* Reset the pending bitmask before enabling irqs */
> +	ftrace_printk("#1 softirq pending: %08x\n", local_softirq_pending());
>  	set_softirq_pending(0);
> +	ftrace_printk("#2 softirq pending: %08x\n", local_softirq_pending());

>  	local_irq_enable();

I've done my new trace after recompiling very latest tip, so this should
have been taken into account.

So this seems RCU-related... If more tests are needed, do not hesitate
to ask. Btw, on the laptop which also shows ksoftirqd problems, I also
have CONFIG_TREE_RCU=y.

-- 
Damien
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ