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Date:	Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:34:17 -0800
From:	mark gross <mgross@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@...tuousgeek.org>
Cc:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@...e.cz>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	pm list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@...roid.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	"Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2@...com>,
	Uli Luckas <u.luckas@...d.de>,
	Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...ia.com>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 02:19:13PM -0800, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:04 pm Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 01:57:17PM -0800, mark gross wrote:
> > > Putting the wake on key event issue aside, is it possible to have wake
> > > up's on the ms time scale?  I ask because I thought the XO did exactly
> > > this (but left the screen live).  Why does it take 20 sec to get into
> > > or out of S3 on my laptop?
> >
> > Graphics reinit, dumping graphics contents back into RAM, us resuming
> > devices in series, that kind of thing. On some hardware you'll spend a
> > noticable amount of time in the BIOS before any of the Linux resume code
> > gets touched. I thought the XO had got sub second, but I wasn't sure
> > that they were in the low ms range.
> 
> IME a good chunk of it is BIOS time.  On my x200s resume is very fast (on the 
> order of a second or two though I haven't measured), while on my Eee and T61 
> machines it's much slower, even though they're all using Intel gfx.
> 
> Of course we should really be shooting for sub-second times or about the time 
> it takes you to open your lid (or even much faster in the case of demand 
> suspend/resume for servers/desktops).

yeah I was thinking vertical blank refresh times.

We would need a state where the graphics stayed on somehow too.   

--mgross

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