linux-kernel - Re: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single ipi fallback for smp_call_function

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Message-ID: <20090219122031.GC1703@elte.hu>
Date:	Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:20:31 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>
Cc:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arch@...r.kernel.org" <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: smp.c && barriers (Was: [PATCH 1/4] generic-smp: remove single
	ipi fallback for smp_call_function_many())


* Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:17 -0800, Ingo Molnar wrote: 
> > * Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Indeed that could cause problems on some architectures which I
> > > > had hoped to avoid. So the patch is probably better off to first
> > > > add the smp_mb() to arch_send_call_function_xxx arch code, unless
> > > > it is immediately obvious or confirmed by arch maintainer that
> > > > such barrier is not required.
> > > 
> > > For x2apic specific operations we should add the smp_mb() sequence. But
> > > we need to make sure that we don't end up doing it twice (once in
> > > generic code and another in arch code) for all the ipi paths.
> > 
> > right now we do have an smp_mb() due to your fix in November.
> > 
> > So what should happen is to move that smp_mb() from the x86 
> > generic IPI path to the x86 x2apic IPI path. (and turn it into 
> > an smp_wmb() - that should be enough - we dont care about future 
> > reads being done sooner than this point.)
> 
> Ingo, smp_wmb() won't help. x2apic register writes can still 
> go ahead of the sfence. According to the SDM, we need a 
> serializing instruction or mfence. Our internal experiments 
> also proved this.

ah, yes - i got confused about how an x2apic write can pass a 
_store_ fence.

The reason is that an MSR write is a register->register move 
(not a memory write), so it it not part of the generic memory 
ordering machinery. So a serializing instruction it has to be.

> Appended is the x86 portion of the patch: ---
> 
> From: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>
> Subject: x86: move smp_mb() in x86 flush tlb path to x2apic specific IPI
> paths

Could you please refresh this patch to latest tip:master? The 
APIC drivers moved to arch/x86/kernel/apic/.

	Ingo
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