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Message-Id: <200902201146.59944.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:46:55 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
Cc:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
	"Woodruff, Richard" <r-woodruff2@...com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Kyle Moffett <kyle@...fetthome.net>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@...el.suspend2.net>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	mark gross <mgross@...ux.intel.com>,
	Uli Luckas <u.luckas@...d.de>,
	Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@...ia.com>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] Automatic suspend

On Thursday 19 February 2009, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 19 Februar 2009 23:21:46 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki:
> > > That's the whole point behind userspace wakelocks!  They provide a
> > > mechanism for userspace to tell the kernel when (as far as userspace 
> is
> > > concerned) it is or is not okay to auto-sleep.
> >
> > Still, one can go further and observe that the user space can in fact start
> > automatic suspend by itself whenever it knows it's appropriate ...
> 
> User space initiating this is a race condition.

Do you mean a race with the other user space processes or with the kernel?

Rafael
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