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Date:	Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:00:53 +0200
From:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Pekka Paalanen <pq@....fi>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
	Martin Bligh <mbligh@...gle.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@...stal.dyndns.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <srostedt@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] tracing: add event trace infrastructure

Hi Andrew,

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Andrew Morton
<akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> A better approach would be to design simple, robust kernel interfaces
> which make sense and which aren't made all complex by putting the user
> interface in kernel space.  And to maintain corresponding userspace
> tools which manipulate and present the IO from those kernel interfaces.

We did this for kmemtrace and quite frankly, I usually end up spending
more time figuring out how to export the data from a virtual machine
than actually analyzing the results. What makes ftrace so cool is the
fact that it has almost zero-overhead for setup and that the
text-based data format plays well with simple scripting tools
available everywhere.

                                     Pekka
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