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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903061321110.23248@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date:	Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:34:43 -0500 (EST)
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	ltt-dev@...ts.casi.polymtl.ca,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Pekka Paalanen <pq@....fi>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Martin Bligh <mbligh@...gle.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...hat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Jiaying Zhang <jiayingz@...gle.com>,
	Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu <eduard.munteanu@...ux360.ro>,
	mrubin@...gle.com, md@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 00/41] LTTng 0.105 core for Linux 2.6.27-rc9


Hi Mathieu,

Thanks for posting this. But it might be better to post in much smaller 
chunks. Lets work out the little things first. Posting 41 patches is a bit 
overwhelming. Took me a few hours to look at them all, and when I got to 
the end, I forgot what was at the beginning.

There's also minor changes to core kernel infrastructure code. seq_file, 
exporting functions, and such. These really need to be packaged 
separately, and sent to the proper maintainers. Having them in a patch 
bomb does not get the proper focus that they need.


On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I spent the last 4-5 months working with the Fujitsu team at implementing the
> tracer elements identified as goals at Kernel Summit 2008 and at the following
> Plumber Conference. My idea was to incremententally adapt the LTTng tracer,
> currently used in the industry and well tested, to those requirements.

We really need to work together on this too. The biggest requirement that 
came out of that conference was to have a "single unified buffering 
system". And this was discussed quite heavily on LKML afterwards. All 
development was done incrementally and publicly.

> 
> I spent the last days rearranging/folding/inspecting the LTTng patchset
> to prepare it for an LKML post. The version 0.105 in the LTTng git tree
> corresponds to the patchset I am posting here. The said patchset will
> only include the core features of LTTng, excluding the timestamping
> infrastructure (trace clock) and excluding the instrumentation.
> 
> The corresponding git tree contains also the trace clock patches and the lttng
> instrumentation. The trace clock is required to use the tracer, but it can be
> used without the instrumentation : there is already a kprobes and userspace
> event support included in this patchset.
> 
> This tracer exports binary data through buffers using splice(). The resulting
> binary files can be parsed from userspace because the format string metadata is
> exported in the files. The event set can be enhanced by adding tracepoints to
> the kernel code and by creating probe modules, which connects callbacks to the
> tracepoints and contain the format string metainformation. Those callbacks are
> responsible for writing the data in the trace buffers. This separation between
> the trace buffer format string and the tracepoints is done on purpose so the
> core kernel instrumentation (tracepoints) is not exported to userspace, which
> will make maintainance much easier.

I've discussed this in my previous email. There is still a separation with
the TRACE_EVENT_FORMAT and the maintainers code. The format sting is 
"hint" only and may change without notice. LTTng could use it or ignore 
it, it is up to the tracer to actually export that string. ftrace chose to 
export it because it was a simple way to extract that information. My 
utility will need to do a bit more work when the events get more complex, 
but the way it is set up, we can do that on a case by case basis.


> 
> The tree including the trace clock patches is available at :
> 
> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/compudj/linux-2.6-lttng.git
> branch : 2.6.29-rc7-lttng-0.105
> 
> Project website : http://www.lttng.org/
> 
> Information about how to install and use the tracer is available at :
> 
> http://ltt.polymtl.ca/svn/trunk/lttv/LTTngManual.html
> 
> The size of the LTTng core patchset is 41 patches. The diffstat details
> as follow :


Again, this is overwhelming. This needs to be broken up into a small 
subsets that can be examined piece by piece.

> 
>  include/linux/ltt-core.h                                  |   35 
>  include/linux/ltt-relay.h                                 |  161 +
>  include/linux/ltt-tracer.h                                |   43 
>  include/linux/marker.h                                    |  121 
>  kernel/marker.c                                           |  353 ++
>  kernel/module.c                                           |   31 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/Documentation/markers.txt                 |   17 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/MAINTAINERS                               |    7 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/Makefile                                  |    2 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/powerpc/kernel/traps.c               |    5 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/powerpc/platforms/cell/spufs/spufs.h |    6 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/sparc/Makefile                       |    2 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/x86/kernel/dumpstack.c               |    5 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/arch/x86/mm/fault.c                       |    1 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/fsync.c                           |    8 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/ialloc.c                          |   17 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/inode.c                           |   79 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/mballoc.c                         |   71 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/mballoc.h                         |    2 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/ext4/super.c                           |    6 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/jbd2/checkpoint.c                      |    7 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/jbd2/commit.c                          |   12 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/pipe.c                                 |    5 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/select.c                               |   41 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/seq_file.c                             |   45 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/fs/splice.c                               |    1 

There is a lot of code above that needs to be in their own patch series.
Maintainers do not have the time to pick through 41 patches to find out 
which patch might deal with their code.

Thanks,

-- Steve


>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/immediate.h                 |   94 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/kvm_host.h                  |   12 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-channels.h              |   94 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-core.h                  |   47 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-relay.h                 |  186 +
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-tracer.h                |  731 ++++++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/ltt-type-serializer.h       |  107 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/marker.h                    |   16 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/module.h                    |    6 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/poll.h                      |    2 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/linux/seq_file.h                  |   20 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/trace/ext4.h                      |  129 +
>  linux-2.6-lttng/include/trace/jbd2.h                      |   19 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/init/Kconfig                              |    2 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/kernel/kallsyms.c                         |    1 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/kernel/marker.c                           |   12 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/kernel/module.c                           |   32 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/Kconfig                               |  130 +
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/Makefile                              |   15 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-channels.c                        |  338 ++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-core.c                            |  101 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-filter.c                          |   66 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-kprobes.c                         |  479 +++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-marker-control.c                  |  265 ++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-relay-alloc.c                     |  715 +++++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-relay-locked.c                    | 1704 ++++++++++++++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-serialize.c                       |  685 +++++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-trace-control.c                   | 1061 ++++++++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-tracer.c                          | 1210 +++++++++
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-type-serializer.c                 |   96 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/ltt/ltt-userspace-event.c                 |  131 +
>  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/Makefile                  |    2 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/marker-example.c          |    4 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/probe-example.c           |   10 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/samples/markers/test-multi.c              |  120 
>  linux-2.6-lttng/virt/kvm/kvm_trace.c                      |   12 
>  ltt/Kconfig                                               |   24 
>  ltt/Makefile                                              |    2 
>  ltt/ltt-relay-alloc.c                                     |   80 
>  65 files changed, 9445 insertions(+), 398 deletions(-)
> 
> 
> Comments are welcome.
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68
> 
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